Re: [xmca] Streamed Discussion of Development in CHAT Theory

From: Mike Cole <lchcmike who-is-at>
Date: Fri Nov 23 2007 - 15:52:10 PST

This thread contains a lot of different, related topics. I am not sure how
best to break them out
so people can follow the ones they are most concerned with.

Affect being alpha and omega is one topic here.
Dynamics of learning and development another

I will start a thread focused on Dynamics and hope others will pick up other
strands of the thread.

On Nov 22, 2007 4:08 PM, Andy Blunden <> wrote:

> At 03:47 PM 22/11/2007 -0800, David Kellogg wrote: ...
> > Andy, I think that LSV is RIGHT to avoid the use of "identity" and to
> > prefer "personality" (which I think to him is a holistic, socially
> > grounded notion of "personhood" rather than some kind set of individual
> > personal traits). Take Adam's example of two sisters playing at being
> > "sisters". There is no "identity" in the resulting personhood, because,
> > as LSV explains, they play at being sisters by doing the OPPOSITE of
> what
> > they do in real life.
> David, "personality" is a word which is open to different meanings. 1.
> Being a person or "personness" (consciousness of freedom I think) or 2.
> (more often) character. Study of and interest in "personal character" is I
> think something that has *always* been of interest to psychologists. Even
> Aristotle, who saw no reason to think that what went on in his head was
> any
> different to what went on in anyone else's head, was interested in the
> formation of character and wrote a lot about it. Yet he knew nothing of
> "identity". We can have a "personality" without being aware of what it is,
> ... like my cat Charlie.
> I think Adam is closer to "identity" in pointing to how children learn
> about the available roles, what is expected of a role, how to perform a
> role, and thinking about choosing a role, but isn't "identity" one step
> further on from that? I think people learn that the world is a drama and
> they can play a part in that drama. But only in our times (it seems) do
> people think that they must be both the performer and the author of the
> drama. ??
> Andy
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