Re: [xmca] History of CHAT & ISCAR Panel

Ask Dr. Carol A. Macdonald, she might be in good position to answer this
question. She is a visiting Lecturer at the University of the Witwatersrand
in South Africa.

Kind regards

Jaki

On 10/09/2007, Olga Vasquez <ovasquez@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
> Carol and others,
>
> I am not well versed on who in Africa is
> conducting ISCAR-type research? I will ask
> Mohamed Elhammounie for suggestions but would
> appreciate suggestions from you all.
> Olga
>
> >You may get a South African if you would like--ehtnography or CHAT or
> both.
> >
> >
> >On 10/09/2007, Cathrene Connery <cconnery@ithaca.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Olga Vasquez wrote:
> >> >> Thanks Judith,
> >> >
> >> > We now have one more slot for the panel that Cathrene is proposing
> on
> >> > the history
> >> > of CHAT with individuals working on various aspects of the
> enterprise
> >> > and different places
> >> > of the earth.
> >> >
> >> > Cathrene, could you define it for us?
> >> > Olga
> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> I am following up on the panel that I suggested based on the
> meeting
> >> >> here in Brazil. What about a panel between ethnographers and chat
> >> >> theorists to juxtapose the traditions on studying learning in and
> out
> >> >> of schools
> >> >>
> >> >> I propose:
> >> >>
> >> >> Elsie Rockwell, Mexico
> >> >>
> >> >> Marietta de haan, the netherlands
> >> >>
> >> >> Clara Keating, Portugual (from David Barton's Group)
> >> >>
> >> >> robert rueda or luis moll or norma gonzalez, US
> >> >>
> >> >> responders--
> >> >>
> >> >> Carol Lee, US (or carol could talk and robert, luis or norma could
> >> >> respond)
> >> >>
> >> >> Bernard Schnewley, Geneva
> >> >>
> >> >> On 9/7/07, Olga Vasquez
> >> >> <<mailto:ovasquez@weber.ucsd.edu>ovasquez@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Colleagues and friends,
> >> >>
> >> >> It is true, ISCAR will take place in San Diego! It is not a
> >> >> malicious rumor. Everything is set--rooms, time schedule, etc.
> >> >> However, our 6-campus planning committee is trying to maintain the
> >> >> "complexity" and comprehensiveness that all our work embraces as
> the
> >> >> basic unit of analysis, and
> >> >> therefore are taking a little longer than usual to finalize our
> >> >> vision and our schedule--as you
> >> >> say below, working collaboratively across time, place, and
> >> >> intersections of our theories, is a complex,
> >> >> complicated thing to do. In fact, I wish that we could some how,
> some
> >> >> day, broadcast some of
> >> >> the ICHAT discussions we during our planning sessions--they are as
> >> >> exhilarating as those on this forum.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do look for the announcement of the conference, "Ecologies of
> >> >> Diversities" to come out in
> >> >> the next two weeks. The conference will be held here at UCSD from
> >> >> September 8 (welcoming
> >> >> reception) to the 13th, 2008.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let us know what you all would like to propose for a
> symposia. Your
> >> >> ideas are very much
> >> >> in line with one of the emphases we want to give the
> >> >> conference--systems of collaborative effort.
> >> >>
> >> >> I look forward to meeting you all,
> >> >> Olga
> >> >>
> >> >> ISCAR Planning Committee
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi Cathrene-
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Lets see what your initiative uncovers. A lot I hope. As to ISCAR,
> > > >>> maybe the
> >> >>> idea of an ISCAR in
> >> >>> San Diego is just a malicious rumor? (The offer of a cot and key
> to
> >> >>> the lab
> >> >>> stand, so far no takers)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Here is a small contribution to your project that might be of some
> >> >>> interest.
> >> >>> Check out the first page of the document at
> >> >>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Pubs/CHILDPSY.pdf>
> >> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Pubs/CHILDPSY.pdf.
> >> >>> Published in 1981. The "author"
> >> >>> is labelled as lchc, but if you go to the bottom of the first
> page,
> >> >>> there is
> >> >>> a list of the contributors with non-acronymic names
> >> >>> Perhaps there are some clues to history in that list?
> >> >>> mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>> PS-- A search on Raeithel on lchc might yield a little information
> >> >>> as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 9/7/07, Cathrene Connery
> >> >>> <<mailto:cconnery@ithaca.edu>cconnery@ithaca.edu> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi everyone:
> >> >>>> Thanks to Mike for the interesting graphic by Arne Raethell. It
> is
> >> a
> >> >>>> beautiful heuristic and psychological tool. The notion of
> putting
> >> >>>> together a session at ISCAR on this topic is actually a very
> good
> >> one
> > > >>>> ...and while the complexity of the task may appear to require
> the
> >> >>>> spacial / relational intelligence of a cab driver from Chicago
> or
> >> >>>> London, I believe that by elucidating the major thoroughfares,
> back
> >> >>>> alleys, and main streets associated with CHAT would invite more
> >> >>>> participants into the larger discussion.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Like Mike, we are all swamped right now and are likely to be
> >> >>>> heading to
> >> >>>> the gym or the bar. (Perhaps I am the only person on the East
> Coast
> >> >>>> still in her office on Friday at 5:00 p.m.?) However, if the
> >> >>>> weight of
> >> >>>> this question could be amicably shouldered by the collective,
> >> >>>> distributed intelligence and historical memory of this list
> serve, I
> >> >>>> think the task is doable. What if everyone took a deep breath,
> >> typed
> >> >>>> the stem "In the beginning...." and wrote in a stream of
> conscious
> >> >>>> fashion knowing that there is a younger generation of scholars,
> an
> >> >>>> eager
> >> >> >> audience, who need and look up to your guidance? One or two
> >> >> paragraphs
> >> >>>> would be enough. Perhaps people on the list serve could agree
> to
> >> >>>> disagree in advance without challenging others interpretations?
> The
> >> >>>> results might be very interesting: a multi-dimensional prism
> >> >>>> highlighting the many colors / interpretations of the field.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The CHAT community is unique among list serves exhibiting a
> >> >>>> comraderie
> >> >>>> and respect other electronic conversations don't reflect. If
> each
> >> >>>> person could highlight a piece of the puzzle related to their
> >> >>>> interest,
> >> >>>> we'd have a fascinating mosaic from which we could co-construct
> >> >>>> individual and perhaps, a collective vision. Besides, we don't
> want
> >> >>> > Mike to go through life out of breath, experiencing his
> >> >>> responsibilities
> >> >>>> to the list serve like one of those slick TV wrestlers who
> heaves
> >> >>>> bodies
> >> >>> > across the ring. As far as the cot and key are concerned, if
> >> >>> there
> >> >>>> are any opportunities to do post-doc work, please let me know!
> >> >>>> Happy Friday,
> >> >>>> Cathrene
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Mike Cole wrote:
> >> >>>> > HUGE FONT FOR HUGE QUESTION!!!
> >> >>>> > Now for the small print - read with care)
> >> >>>> > (I volunteer to do this work on condition that members of xmca
> >> >>>> complete
> >> >>>> two
> >> >>>> > grant proposals required in next few weeks, prepare for,
> >> >>>> > and teach my fall classes! I will provide a cot and key to
> LCHC
> >> >>>> to my
> >> >>>> > substitute at UCSD during this time period. And when I am
> done,
> >> >>>> > like the dragon's teeth that Jason stirred up looking for the
> >> >>>> golden
> >> >>>> fleece,
> >> >>>> > a thousand better informed colleagues will point out the
> >> >>>> > total idiocy of my interpretation of history)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Now, feeling all springy and cool after the passing fit of
> local
> >> >>>> hot
> >> >>>> air, I
> >> >>>> > will say that
> >> >>>> > I think it would be most useful, if there is genuine interest
> in
> > > >>>> such
> >> >>>> > historical excavation,
> >> >>>> > exegesis, and exciting prospects, that it be (shhhhh) a
> collective
> >> >>>> effort.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > There are books written on this topics, several chapters of
> >> >>>> books about
> >> >>>> > which some members
> >> >>>> > of xmca are presumably knowledgeable because their names are
> >> >>>> attached to
> >> >>>> > them, as well as
> >> >>>> > many papers written on this topic in many languages, and hot
> >> >>>> disputes
> >> >>>> about
> >> >>>> > this topic in several
> >> >>>> > world capitals as we stare at our screens. There is even a lot
> >> >>>> to be
> >> >>>> found
> >> >>>> > by goggling on lchc.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > For the moment (I am about to join my family after a long day
> of
> >> >>>> work) I
> >> >>>> > append a graphical genaeology (sp?) created by Arne Raeithel
> >> >>>> that may
> >> >>>> > indicate some of the territory to be covered in a way some
> will
> >> >>>> find
> >> >>>> useful.
> >> >>>> > I have a few documents around the lab I can dig up that most
> will
> >> >>>> > not know about that are relevant. But this topic, if people
> > > >>>> really want
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> > engage it, requires willingness of many to cooperate in a
> >> >>>> collaborative
> >> >>>> > archeaology of ideas.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Perhaps this would make an interesting general symposium at
> >> >>>> ISCAR next
> >> >>>> year,
> >> >>>> > if the organizers, wherever they are hiding, ever get around
> >> >>>> > to making public their plans for that august occasion.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > mike
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On 9/6/07, Worthen, Helena Harlow <<mailto:
> hworthen@ad.uiuc.edu>
> >> >>>> hworthen@ad.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >> I second the request from Cathrene Connery and Donald James
> >> >>>> Cunningham
> >> >>>> >> to hear from some who have tried how they (you) present CHAT.
> The
> >> >>>> >> historical perspective (behaviorism, cognitive science,
> >> >>>> sociocultural
> >> >>>> >> perspectives) seems like a necessary one. But what were the
> >> >>>> problems at
> >> >>>> >> each point that pushed things onward?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Helena
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Helena Worthen
> >> >>>> >> Clinical Associate Professor
> >> >>>> >> Labor Education Program
> >> >>>> >> Institute of Labor & Industrial Relations
> >> >>>> >> 504 E. Armory, Room 227
> >> >>>> >> Champaign, IL 61821
> >> >>>> >> Phone: 217-244-4095
> >> >>>> >> <mailto:hworthen@uiuc.edu>hworthen@uiuc.edu
> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> >> From:
> >> >>>> <mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> >>>> [mailto:<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> >>>> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> >> >> >> >> On Behalf Of Cathrene Connery
> >> >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:59 PM
> >> >>>> >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> >>>> >> Subject: [xmca] The Evolution of CHAT
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Tony Whitson wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>> Don,
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Sorry for the delay in responding to this -- but I think
> it's
> >> >>>> a useful
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> question for discussion in this group.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> I want to respond quickly on another point before getting to
> >> >>>> your main
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> question about teaching CHAT.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> First, you write:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> I've taught the usual suspects (behaviorism,
> >> >>>> >>>> Bandura, Piaget, cognitive information processing) for
> years
> >> >>>> and have
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >> a
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>>> pretty good idea about them but would appreciate some help
> on
> >> >>>> CHAT.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>> Where I am, students have learned a story about how once
> upon
> >> >>>> a time
> >> >>>> >>> the world was ruled by the behaviorists, but they've been
> >> >>>> vanquished
> >> >>>> >>> by the (scientifically, pedagogically, politically, and
> morally)
> >> >>>> >>> superior forces of Cognitive Science. They think that's
> where
> >> the
> >> >>> > >>> story ends (as in the "End of History" celebrated since
> >> >>> Daniel Bell in
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> the early 60's, where history completes itself with the
> >> universal
> >> >>> > >>> triumph of capitalism).
> >> >>>> >>>
> > > >>>> >>> I think it's important for students to learn about what's
> >> >>>> happening
> >> >>>> >>> "beyond cognitivism." For me, this is not just a matter of
> >> >>>> theory or
> >> >>>> >>> intellectual politics: My students just won't understand
> >> >>>> anything I'm
> >> >>>> >>> saying or doing unless they understand that I'm addressing
> an
> >> >>>> ontology
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> in which cognition cannot be understood except as it is
> >> >>>> embedded in
> >> >>>> >>> the broader (not only cognitive) projects and processes of
> >> >>>> being and
> >> >>>> >>> becoming. CHAT takes this stance against reductive
> >> >>>> cognitivism, and
> >> >>>> >>> CHAT cannot be understood (IMHO) without recognizing this. I
> >> >>>> think
> >> >>>> >>> Wenger & the Communities of Practice literature perhaps
> makes
> >> >>>> this
> >> >>>> >>> point more directly and accessibly, although details have
> not
> >> >>>> been
> >> >>>> >>> theorized as extensively as in CHAT. Curriculum theory -- my
> >> >>>> own home
> >> >>>> >>> turf -- has always approached education as a matter of
> >> >>>> ontology, not
> >> >>>> >>> merely cognition ( i.e., not just Knowing, but Being and
> > > >>>> Becoming).
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> So, I would want to tell the story of behaviorist hegemony
> >> >>>> giving way
> >> >>>> >>> to cognitivist hegemony, which in turn is being challenged
> by
> >> >>>> a turn
> >> >>>> >>> to the broader perspective of social ontology. This is not
> to
> >> >>>> say that
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> the reductivist ideology of cognitivISM is replaced by an
> >> >>>> ideology of
> >> >>>> >>> postcognitivISM (see my post at
> >> >>>> <http://postcog.net>http://postcog.net ); Nor is it a call
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> for hegemonic "postcognitivism" in place of hegemonic
> >> >>>> cognitivism.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> One good source is Lave, Jean. "Teaching, as Learning, in
> >> >>>> Practice."
> >> >>>> >>> Mind, Culture, and Activity 3, no. 3 (1996): 149-64.
> >> >>>> >>> I think this particular point might come through more
> strongly
> >> in
> >> >>>> >>> Lave, Jean. "Learning as Participation in Communities of
> >> >>>> Practice."
> >> >>>> >>> Paper presented at the American Educational Research
> >> >>>> Association, San
> >> >>>> >>> Francisco 1992.
> >> >>>> >>> (This paper is now linked from
> >> >>>> <http://postcog.net/#Lave>http://postcog.net/#Lave . This is the
> >> >>>> >>> paper Jean presented in the symposium that David Kirshner
> and I
> >> >>>> >>> organized, which grew into our book _Situated Cognition_,
> >> >>>> although a
> >> >>>> >>> different piece was used as her chapter in the book. The MCA
> >> >>>> article
> >> >>>> >>> includes aspects of the AERA paper, although its scope is
> >> >>>> broader and
> >> >>>> >>> the social ontology argument may be less central to the
> complete
> >> >>>> >>> published article.)
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> With regard to your main question, you write:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> [I] was wondering if any of you would be
> >> >>>> >>>> willing to share with me (and other XMCAers) how you
> present
> >> >>>> CHAT. I
> >> >>>> >>>> mean, I don't think undergrads are going to be too
> interested
> >> >>>> in the
> >> >>>> >>>> distinction between action and activity or working out the
> >> >>>> concept of
> >> >>>> >>>> "object". Or am I wrong?
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>> This could be a very interesting discussion for XMCA.
> >> >>>> >>> As you suggest, for an undergrad Ed Psych class, it might be
> >> >>>> best to
> >> >>>> >>> streamline CHAT a bit. However, I don't think the
> >> differentiation
> >> >>>> >>> among the three levels of activity, action, and operations
> is
> >> >>>> >>> dispensable. I think it's necessary to see activities and
> >> >>>> activity
> >> >>>> >>> systems emerging on a social/cultural level beyond
> consciously
> >> >>>> >>> goal-oriented action, and to see the role of routinized
> >> >>>> operational
> >> >>>> >>> activity that does not require conscious attention.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> It would be helpful to develop introductory approaches for
> this
> >> >>>> >>> audience. Starting points could include the resources at
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> <http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/pages/chatanddwr/>
> >> http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/pages/chatanddwr/
> > > >>>>
> >> >>>> >>> and
> >> >>>> >>> Roth, Wolff-Michael, and Yew-Jin Lee. ""Vygotsky's Neglected
> >> >>>> Legacy":
> >> >>>> >>> Cultural-Historical Activity Theory." Review of Educational
> >> >>>> Research
> >> >>>> >>> 77, no. 2 (2007): 186-232.
> >> >>>> >>> as well as
> >> >>>> >>> pp. 27-47 in Spinuzzi, Clay. Tracing Genres through
> >> >>>> Organizations: A
> >> >>>> >>> Sociocultural Approach to Information Design. Cambridge,
> >> >>>> Mass.: MIT
> >> >>>> >>> Press, 2003.
> >> >>>> >>> and
> >> >>>> >>> pp. 29-72 ("Activity Theory in a Nutshell") in Kaptelinin,
> >> >>>> Victor, and
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Bonnie A. Nardi. Acting with Technology: Activity Theory and
> >> >>> > >>> Interaction Design. Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 2006.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Cunningham, Donald James wrote:
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> And in a week or so, I will begin teaching an undergraduate
> >> >>>> class in
> >> >>>> >>>> "Educational Psychology" for future teachers. It has been a
> >> >>>> few years
> >> >>>> >>>> since I taught such a class and was wondering if any of you
> >> >>>> would be
> >> >>>> >>>> willing to share with me (and other XMCAers) how you
> present
> > > >>>> CHAT. I
> >> >>>> >>>> mean, I don't think undergrads are going to be too
> interested
> >> >>>> in the
> >> >>>> >>>> distinction between action and activity or working out the
> >> >>>> concept of
> >> >>>> >>>> "object". Or am I wrong? I've taught the usual suspects
> >> >>>> (behaviorism,
> >> >>>> >>>> Bandura, Piaget, cognitive information processing) for
> years
> >> >>>> and have
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >> a
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>>> pretty good idea about them but would appreciate some help
> on
> >> >>>> CHAT.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Don Cunningham
> >> >>>> >>>> Indiana University
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Ancora Imparo!
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> >>>> From:
> >> >>>> <mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> [mailto:<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>>> On Behalf Of Mike Cole
> >> >>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:13 PM
> >> >>>> >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >> >>>> >>>> Subject: [xmca] mediational theories of mind: Suggestions
> >> >>>> requested
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Dear Xmca-ites---
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Toward the end of the month I will begin teaching a grad
> >> >>>> course on
> >> >>>> >>>> mediational theories of mind.
> >> >>>> >>>> I would love suggestions for interesting readings.
> >> >>>> >>>> We will be looking in a sort of "mcLuhanesque" way at the
> >> >>>> affordances
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >> of
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>>> different kinds of mediators
> >> >>>> >>>> in human action/activity/mind.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> So, language and thought
> >> >>>> >>>> writing
> >> >>>> >>>> film
> >> >>>> >>>> music
> >> >>>> >>>> tv
> >> >>>> >>>> rituals
> >> >>>> >>>> games
> >> >>>> >>>> .........
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Starting with early 20th century writers of general
> >> >>>> familiarity to
> >> >>>> >>>> members
> >> >>>> >>>> of this list, I have been thinking about including
> >> >>>> >>>> such works as Cszikentmihalyi, "meaning of
> things," Turkle's
> >> >>>> recent
> >> >>>> >>>> "evocative objects," and perhaps something on mediated
> >> >>>> >>>> behavior in large groups such as "the wisdom of crowds."
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> Any and all suggestions warmly welcomed. So much going on
> its
> >> >>>> hard to
> >> >>>> >>>> even
> >> >>>> >>>> think about how to begin to think about this
> >> >>>> >>>> upcoming fall!!
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> mike
> >> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> >>>> xmca mailing list
> >> >>>> >>>> <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> >>>> xmca mailing list
> >> >>>> >>>> <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> > > http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>> Tony Whitson
> >> >>>> >>> UD School of Education
> >> >>>> >>> NEWARK DE 19716
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> <mailto:twhitson@udel.edu>twhitson@udel.edu
> >> >>>> >>> _______________________________
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> "those who fail to reread
> >> >>>> >>> are obliged to read the same story everywhere"
> >> >>>> >>> -- Roland Barthes, S/Z (1970)
> >> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> >>> xmca mailing list
> >> >>>> >>> <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >> Hi everyone:
> >> >>>> >> Tony's eloquent characterization of "behaviorist hegemony
> >> >>>> giving way to
> >> >>>> >> cognitivist hegemony, which in turn is being challenged by a
> >> >>>> turn to
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> broader perspective of social ontology" is well put. How
> CHAT
> >> >>>> is being
> >> >>>> >> presented to the rugged individualists (albeit mythological
> >> >>>> entities)
> >> >>>> in
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> our teacher ed programs is of interest to me as well. It
> would
> > > >>>> further
> >> >>>> >> be helpful for CHAT neophytes like myself to hear how those
> of
> >> >>>> you who
> >> >>>> >> have shaped CHAT view how the domain has genetically evolved
> >> >>>> and, in
> >> >>>> >> some cases, splintered (i.e. the differences between
> >> sociocultural
> >> >>>> >> theory vs. activity theory). Thanks for engaging in an
> >> >>>> interesting
> >> >>>> >> discussion. I realize this topic has already been hashed out
> >> >>>> on-line
> >> >>>> >> previously, but it was Lev that said we only truly know
> >> >>>> something when
> >> >>>> >> we view it in motion.
> >> >>>> >> Cathrene
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> --
> >> >>>> >> Dr. M. Cathrene Connery
> >> >>>> >> Assistant Professor of Education
> >> >>> > >> 607.274.7382
> >> >>>> >> Ithaca College
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >>>> >> xmca mailing list
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> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>> >>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >>
> >> >>>>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >>
> >> >>>>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>>
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> >> >> Olga A. Vasquez
> >> >> Department of Communication
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> >> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> Thanks for your interest regarding the history of CHAT and the
> potential
> >> ISCAR panel. Mike has forwarded some solid names on which to draw.
> >> Steve's ideas regarding a master bibliography sound great. While we
> are
> >> at it, why not consider a collection of essays or writings for a book?
> >>
> >> As far as the panel is concerned, I would be happy to define a
> direction
> >> or write a proposal as soon as I can confirm the possibility of my
> >> attending the conference. Second, I'd appreciate input from others
> > > regarding those scholars who should be contacted as potential
> panelists
> >> or contributors in some way. As a newcomer, I'd be loathe to leave
> >> someone out and am relying on your expertise. So, please forward your
> >> suggestions. In the meantime, if Olga could let me know what kind of
> >> information she needs, I'll do a little work behind the scenes.
> >> Best,
> >> Cathrene
> >>
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