Re: [xmca] History of CHAT & ISCAR Panel

yep. of course, so many voices, a bakhtinian bakhinalia.
mike

On 9/9/07, Tony Whitson <twhitson@udel.edu> wrote:
>
> And, of course, the Roth and Lee article in RER on "Vygotsky's Neglected
> Legacy": Cultural-Historical Activity Theory.
>
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Mike Cole wrote:
>
> > Jim wertsch wrote that the topic of history of
> > socio-cultural-historical-activity-approaches was probably worth
> > several symposia, Cathrene.
> >
> > The "AT in a nutshell" chapter in Kaptilinin and Nardi (or versa vice)
> is
> > another interesitng historical account
> > to add to the growing list.
> > mike
> >
> > On 9/9/07, Cathrene Connery <cconnery@ithaca.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Olga Vasquez wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Judith,
> >>>
> >>> We now have one more slot for the panel that Cathrene is proposing on
> >>> the history
> >>> of CHAT with individuals working on various aspects of the enterprise
> >>> and different places
> >>> of the earth.
> >>>
> >>> Cathrene, could you define it for us?
> >>> Olga
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am following up on the panel that I suggested based on the meeting
> >>>> here in Brazil. What about a panel between ethnographers and chat
> >>>> theorists to juxtapose the traditions on studying learning in and out
> >>>> of schools
> >>>>
> >>>> I propose:
> >>>>
> >>>> Elsie Rockwell, Mexico
> >>>>
> >>>> Marietta de haan, the netherlands
> >>>>
> >>>> Clara Keating, Portugual (from David Barton's Group)
> >>>>
> >>>> robert rueda or luis moll or norma gonzalez, US
> >>>>
> >>>> responders--
> >>>>
> >>>> Carol Lee, US (or carol could talk and robert, luis or norma could
> >>>> respond)
> >>>>
> >>>> Bernard Schnewley, Geneva
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/7/07, Olga Vasquez
> >>>> <<mailto:ovasquez@weber.ucsd.edu>ovasquez@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Colleagues and friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> It is true, ISCAR will take place in San Diego! It is not a
> >>>> malicious rumor. Everything is set--rooms, time schedule, etc.
> >>>> However, our 6-campus planning committee is trying to maintain the
> >>>> "complexity" and comprehensiveness that all our work embraces as the
> >>>> basic unit of analysis, and
> >>>> therefore are taking a little longer than usual to finalize our
> >>>> vision and our schedule--as you
> >>>> say below, working collaboratively across time, place, and
> >>>> intersections of our theories, is a complex,
> >>>> complicated thing to do. In fact, I wish that we could some how, some
> >>>> day, broadcast some of
> >>>> the ICHAT discussions we during our planning sessions--they are as
> >>>> exhilarating as those on this forum.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do look for the announcement of the conference, "Ecologies of
> >>>> Diversities" to come out in
> >>>> the next two weeks. The conference will be held here at UCSD from
> >>>> September 8 (welcoming
> >>>> reception) to the 13th, 2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let us know what you all would like to propose for a symposia. Your
> >>>> ideas are very much
> >>>> in line with one of the emphases we want to give the
> >>>> conference--systems of collaborative effort.
> >>>>
> >>>> I look forward to meeting you all,
> >>>> Olga
> >>>>
> >>>> ISCAR Planning Committee
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Cathrene-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lets see what your initiative uncovers. A lot I hope. As to ISCAR,
> >>>>> maybe the
> >>>>> idea of an ISCAR in
> >>>>> San Diego is just a malicious rumor? (The offer of a cot and key to
> >>>>> the lab
> >>>>> stand, so far no takers)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here is a small contribution to your project that might be of some
> >>>>> interest.
> >>>>> Check out the first page of the document at
> >>>>> <http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Pubs/CHILDPSY.pdf>
> >> http://lchc.ucsd.edu/Pubs/CHILDPSY.pdf.
> >>>>> Published in 1981. The "author"
> >>>>> is labelled as lchc, but if you go to the bottom of the first page,
> >>>>> there is
> >>>>> a list of the contributors with non-acronymic names
> >>>>> Perhaps there are some clues to history in that list?
> >>>>> mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS-- A search on Raeithel on lchc might yield a little information
> >>>>> as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/7/07, Cathrene Connery
> >>>>> <<mailto:cconnery@ithaca.edu>cconnery@ithaca.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi everyone:
> >>>>>> Thanks to Mike for the interesting graphic by Arne Raethell. It
> is
> >> a
> >>>>>> beautiful heuristic and psychological tool. The notion of putting
> >>>>>> together a session at ISCAR on this topic is actually a very good
> >> one
> >>>>>> ...and while the complexity of the task may appear to require the
> >>>>>> spacial / relational intelligence of a cab driver from Chicago or
> >>>>>> London, I believe that by elucidating the major thoroughfares,
> back
> >>>>>> alleys, and main streets associated with CHAT would invite more
> >>>>>> participants into the larger discussion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Like Mike, we are all swamped right now and are likely to be
> >>>>>> heading to
> >>>>>> the gym or the bar. (Perhaps I am the only person on the East
> Coast
> >>>>>> still in her office on Friday at 5:00 p.m.?) However, if the
> >>>>>> weight of
> >>>>>> this question could be amicably shouldered by the collective,
> >>>>>> distributed intelligence and historical memory of this list serve,
> I
> >>>>>> think the task is doable. What if everyone took a deep breath,
> >> typed
> >>>>>> the stem "In the beginning...." and wrote in a stream of conscious
> >>>>>> fashion knowing that there is a younger generation of scholars, an
> >>>>>> eager
> >>>> >> audience, who need and look up to your guidance? One or two
> >>>> paragraphs
> >>>>>> would be enough. Perhaps people on the list serve could agree to
> >>>>>> disagree in advance without challenging others interpretations?
> The
> >>>>>> results might be very interesting: a multi-dimensional prism
> >>>>>> highlighting the many colors / interpretations of the field.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The CHAT community is unique among list serves exhibiting a
> >>>>>> comraderie
> >>>>>> and respect other electronic conversations don't reflect. If
> each
> >>>>>> person could highlight a piece of the puzzle related to their
> >>>>>> interest,
> >>>>>> we'd have a fascinating mosaic from which we could co-construct
> >>>>>> individual and perhaps, a collective vision. Besides, we don't
> want
> >>>>> > Mike to go through life out of breath, experiencing his
> >>>>> responsibilities
> >>>>>> to the list serve like one of those slick TV wrestlers who heaves
> >>>>>> bodies
> >>>>> > across the ring. As far as the cot and key are concerned, if
> >>>>> there
> >>>>>> are any opportunities to do post-doc work, please let me know!
> >>>>>> Happy Friday,
> >>>>>> Cathrene
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike Cole wrote:
> >>>>>> > HUGE FONT FOR HUGE QUESTION!!!
> >>>>>> > Now for the small print - read with care)
> >>>>>> > (I volunteer to do this work on condition that members of xmca
> >>>>>> complete
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>> > grant proposals required in next few weeks, prepare for,
> >>>>>> > and teach my fall classes! I will provide a cot and key to LCHC
> >>>>>> to my
> >>>>>> > substitute at UCSD during this time period. And when I am done,
> >>>>>> > like the dragon's teeth that Jason stirred up looking for the
> >>>>>> golden
> >>>>>> fleece,
> >>>>>> > a thousand better informed colleagues will point out the
> >>>>>> > total idiocy of my interpretation of history)
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Now, feeling all springy and cool after the passing fit of local
> >>>>>> hot
> >>>>>> air, I
> >>>>>> > will say that
> >>>>>> > I think it would be most useful, if there is genuine interest in
> >>>>>> such
> >>>>>> > historical excavation,
> >>>>>> > exegesis, and exciting prospects, that it be (shhhhh) a
> collective
> >>>>>> effort.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > There are books written on this topics, several chapters of
> >>>>>> books about
> >>>>>> > which some members
> >>>>>> > of xmca are presumably knowledgeable because their names are
> >>>>>> attached to
> >>>>>> > them, as well as
> >>>>>> > many papers written on this topic in many languages, and hot
> >>>>>> disputes
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> > this topic in several
> >>>>>> > world capitals as we stare at our screens. There is even a lot
> >>>>>> to be
> >>>>>> found
> >>>>>> > by goggling on lchc.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > For the moment (I am about to join my family after a long day of
> >>>>>> work) I
> >>>>>> > append a graphical genaeology (sp?) created by Arne Raeithel
> >>>>>> that may
> >>>>>> > indicate some of the territory to be covered in a way some will
> >>>>>> find
> >>>>>> useful.
> >>>>>> > I have a few documents around the lab I can dig up that most will
> >>>>>> > not know about that are relevant. But this topic, if people
> >>>>>> really want
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> > engage it, requires willingness of many to cooperate in a
> >>>>>> collaborative
> >>>>>> > archeaology of ideas.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Perhaps this would make an interesting general symposium at
> >>>>>> ISCAR next
> >>>>>> year,
> >>>>>> > if the organizers, wherever they are hiding, ever get around
> >>>>>> > to making public their plans for that august occasion.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > mike
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On 9/6/07, Worthen, Helena Harlow <<mailto:hworthen@ad.uiuc.edu>
> >>>>>> hworthen@ad.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >> I second the request from Cathrene Connery and Donald James
> >>>>>> Cunningham
> >>>>>> >> to hear from some who have tried how they (you) present CHAT.
> The
> >>>>>> >> historical perspective (behaviorism, cognitive science,
> >>>>>> sociocultural
> >>>>>> >> perspectives) seems like a necessary one. But what were the
> >>>>>> problems at
> >>>>>> >> each point that pushed things onward?
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Helena
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Helena Worthen
> >>>>>> >> Clinical Associate Professor
> >>>>>> >> Labor Education Program
> >>>>>> >> Institute of Labor & Industrial Relations
> >>>>>> >> 504 E. Armory, Room 227
> >>>>>> >> Champaign, IL 61821
> >>>>>> >> Phone: 217-244-4095
> >>>>>> >> <mailto:hworthen@uiuc.edu>hworthen@uiuc.edu
> >>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> >> From:
> >>>>>> <mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>>>> [mailto:<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>>>>> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> >>>> >> >> On Behalf Of Cathrene Connery
> >>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:59 PM
> >>>>>> >> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >>>>>> >> Subject: [xmca] The Evolution of CHAT
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Tony Whitson wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>> Don,
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> Sorry for the delay in responding to this -- but I think it's
> >>>>>> a useful
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> question for discussion in this group.
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> I want to respond quickly on another point before getting to
> >>>>>> your main
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> question about teaching CHAT.
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> First, you write:
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>>> I've taught the usual suspects (behaviorism,
> >>>>>> >>>> Bandura, Piaget, cognitive information processing) for years
> >>>>>> and have
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >> a
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>>> pretty good idea about them but would appreciate some help on
> >>>>>> CHAT.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>> Where I am, students have learned a story about how once upon
> >>>>>> a time
> >>>>>> >>> the world was ruled by the behaviorists, but they've been
> >>>>>> vanquished
> >>>>>> >>> by the (scientifically, pedagogically, politically, and
> morally)
> >>>>>> >>> superior forces of Cognitive Science. They think that's where
> >> the
> >>>>> >>>> story ends (as in the "End of History" celebrated since
> >>>>> Daniel Bell in
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> the early 60's, where history completes itself with the
> >> universal
> >>>>> >>>> triumph of capitalism).
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> I think it's important for students to learn about what's
> >>>>>> happening
> >>>>>> >>> "beyond cognitivism." For me, this is not just a matter of
> >>>>>> theory or
> >>>>>> >>> intellectual politics: My students just won't understand
> >>>>>> anything I'm
> >>>>>> >>> saying or doing unless they understand that I'm addressing an
> >>>>>> ontology
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> in which cognition cannot be understood except as it is
> >>>>>> embedded in
> >>>>>> >>> the broader (not only cognitive) projects and processes of
> >>>>>> being and
> >>>>>> >>> becoming. CHAT takes this stance against reductive
> >>>>>> cognitivism, and
> >>>>>> >>> CHAT cannot be understood (IMHO) without recognizing this. I
> >>>>>> think
> >>>>>> >>> Wenger & the Communities of Practice literature perhaps makes
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>> >>> point more directly and accessibly, although details have not
> >>>>>> been
> >>>>>> >>> theorized as extensively as in CHAT. Curriculum theory -- my
> >>>>>> own home
> >>>>>> >>> turf -- has always approached education as a matter of
> >>>>>> ontology, not
> >>>>>> >>> merely cognition ( i.e., not just Knowing, but Being and
> >>>>>> Becoming).
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> So, I would want to tell the story of behaviorist hegemony
> >>>>>> giving way
> >>>>>> >>> to cognitivist hegemony, which in turn is being challenged by
> >>>>>> a turn
> >>>>>> >>> to the broader perspective of social ontology. This is not to
> >>>>>> say that
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> the reductivist ideology of cognitivISM is replaced by an
> >>>>>> ideology of
> >>>>>> >>> postcognitivISM (see my post at
> >>>>>> <http://postcog.net>http://postcog.net ); Nor is it a call
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> for hegemonic "postcognitivism" in place of hegemonic
> >>>>>> cognitivism.
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> One good source is Lave, Jean. "Teaching, as Learning, in
> >>>>>> Practice."
> >>>>>> >>> Mind, Culture, and Activity 3, no. 3 (1996): 149-64.
> >>>>>> >>> I think this particular point might come through more strongly
> >> in
> >>>>>> >>> Lave, Jean. "Learning as Participation in Communities of
> >>>>>> Practice."
> >>>>>> >>> Paper presented at the American Educational Research
> >>>>>> Association, San
> >>>>>> >>> Francisco 1992.
> >>>>>> >>> (This paper is now linked from
> >>>>>> <http://postcog.net/#Lave>http://postcog.net/#Lave . This is the
> >>>>>> >>> paper Jean presented in the symposium that David Kirshner and I
> >>>>>> >>> organized, which grew into our book _Situated Cognition_,
> >>>>>> although a
> >>>>>> >>> different piece was used as her chapter in the book. The MCA
> >>>>>> article
> >>>>>> >>> includes aspects of the AERA paper, although its scope is
> >>>>>> broader and
> >>>>>> >>> the social ontology argument may be less central to the
> complete
> >>>>>> >>> published article.)
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> With regard to your main question, you write:
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>>> [I] was wondering if any of you would be
> >>>>>> >>>> willing to share with me (and other XMCAers) how you present
> >>>>>> CHAT. I
> >>>>>> >>>> mean, I don't think undergrads are going to be too interested
> >>>>>> in the
> >>>>>> >>>> distinction between action and activity or working out the
> >>>>>> concept of
> >>>>>> >>>> "object". Or am I wrong?
> >>>> >> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>> This could be a very interesting discussion for XMCA.
> >>>>>> >>> As you suggest, for an undergrad Ed Psych class, it might be
> >>>>>> best to
> >>>>>> >>> streamline CHAT a bit. However, I don't think the
> >> differentiation
> >>>>>> >>> among the three levels of activity, action, and operations is
> >>>>>> >>> dispensable. I think it's necessary to see activities and
> >>>>>> activity
> >>>>>> >>> systems emerging on a social/cultural level beyond consciously
> >>>>>> >>> goal-oriented action, and to see the role of routinized
> >>>>>> operational
> >>>>>> >>> activity that does not require conscious attention.
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> It would be helpful to develop introductory approaches for this
> >>>>>> >>> audience. Starting points could include the resources at
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> <http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/pages/chatanddwr/>
> >> http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/pages/chatanddwr/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>> and
> >>>>>> >>> Roth, Wolff-Michael, and Yew-Jin Lee. ""Vygotsky's Neglected
> >>>>>> Legacy":
> >>>>>> >>> Cultural-Historical Activity Theory." Review of Educational
> >>>>>> Research
> >>>>>> >>> 77, no. 2 (2007): 186-232.
> >>>>>> >>> as well as
> >>>>>> >>> pp. 27-47 in Spinuzzi, Clay. Tracing Genres through
> >>>>>> Organizations: A
> >>>>>> >>> Sociocultural Approach to Information Design. Cambridge,
> >>>>>> Mass.: MIT
> >>>>>> >>> Press, 2003.
> >>>>>> >>> and
> >>>>>> >>> pp. 29-72 ("Activity Theory in a Nutshell") in Kaptelinin,
> >>>>>> Victor, and
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> Bonnie A. Nardi. Acting with Technology: Activity Theory and
> >>>>> >>>> Interaction Design. Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 2006.
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Cunningham, Donald James wrote:
> >>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>>> And in a week or so, I will begin teaching an undergraduate
> >>>>>> class in
> >>>>>> >>>> "Educational Psychology" for future teachers. It has been a
> >>>>>> few years
> >>>>>> >>>> since I taught such a class and was wondering if any of you
> >>>>>> would be
> >>>>>> >>>> willing to share with me (and other XMCAers) how you present
> >>>>>> CHAT. I
> >>>>>> >>>> mean, I don't think undergrads are going to be too interested
> >>>>>> in the
> >>>>>> >>>> distinction between action and activity or working out the
> >>>>>> concept of
> >>>>>> >>>> "object". Or am I wrong? I've taught the usual suspects
> >>>>>> (behaviorism,
> >>>>>> >>>> Bandura, Piaget, cognitive information processing) for years
> >>>>>> and have
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >> a
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>>> pretty good idea about them but would appreciate some help on
> >>>>>> CHAT.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Don Cunningham
> >>>>>> >>>> Indiana University
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Ancora Imparo!
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> >>>> From:
> >>>>>> <mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> [mailto:<mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>>> On Behalf Of Mike Cole
> >>>>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:13 PM
> >>>>>> >>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> >>>>>> >>>> Subject: [xmca] mediational theories of mind: Suggestions
> >>>>>> requested
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Dear Xmca-ites---
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Toward the end of the month I will begin teaching a grad
> >>>>>> course on
> >>>>>> >>>> mediational theories of mind.
> >>>>>> >>>> I would love suggestions for interesting readings.
> >>>>>> >>>> We will be looking in a sort of "mcLuhanesque" way at the
> >>>>>> affordances
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >> of
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>>> different kinds of mediators
> >>>>>> >>>> in human action/activity/mind.
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> So, language and thought
> >>>>>> >>>> writing
> >>>>>> >>>> film
> >>>>>> >>>> music
> >>>>>> >>>> tv
> >>>>>> >>>> rituals
> >>>>>> >>>> games
> >>>>>> >>>> .........
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Starting with early 20th century writers of general
> >>>>>> familiarity to
> >>>>>> >>>> members
> >>>>>> >>>> of this list, I have been thinking about including
> >>>>>> >>>> such works as Cszikentmihalyi, "meaning of things," Turkle's
> >>>>>> recent
> >>>>>> >>>> "evocative objects," and perhaps something on mediated
> >>>>>> >>>> behavior in large groups such as "the wisdom of crowds."
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> Any and all suggestions warmly welcomed. So much going on its
> >>>>>> hard to
> >>>>>> >>>> even
> >>>>>> >>>> think about how to begin to think about this
> >>>>>> >>>> upcoming fall!!
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>> mike
> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>>
> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>> >>> Tony Whitson
> >>>>>> >>> UD School of Education
> >>>>>> >>> NEWARK DE 19716
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> <mailto:twhitson@udel.edu>twhitson@udel.edu
> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >>> "those who fail to reread
> >>>>>> >>> are obliged to read the same story everywhere"
> >>>>>> >>> -- Roland Barthes, S/Z (1970)
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> >>>>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>> >> Hi everyone:
> >>>>>> >> Tony's eloquent characterization of "behaviorist hegemony
> >>>>>> giving way to
> >>>>>> >> cognitivist hegemony, which in turn is being challenged by a
> >>>>>> turn to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> broader perspective of social ontology" is well put. How CHAT
> >>>>>> is being
> >>>>>> >> presented to the rugged individualists (albeit mythological
> >>>>>> entities)
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> our teacher ed programs is of interest to me as well. It would
> >>>>>> further
> >>>>>> >> be helpful for CHAT neophytes like myself to hear how those of
> >>>>>> you who
> >>>>>> >> have shaped CHAT view how the domain has genetically evolved
> >>>>>> and, in
> >>>>>> >> some cases, splintered (i.e. the differences between
> >> sociocultural
> >>>>>> >> theory vs. activity theory). Thanks for engaging in an
> >>>>>> interesting
> >>>>>> >> discussion. I realize this topic has already been hashed out
> >>>>>> on-line
> >>>>>> >> previously, but it was Lev that said we only truly know
> >>>>>> something when
> >>>>>> >> we view it in motion.
> >>>>>> >> Cathrene
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> --
> >>>>>> >> Dr. M. Cathrene Connery
> >>>>>> >> Assistant Professor of Education
> >>>>> >>> 607.274.7382
> >>>>>> >> Ithaca College
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> >>>
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> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>
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> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>
>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>> >>
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> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Dr. M. Cathrene Connery
> >>>>>> Assistant Professor of Education
> >>>>>> 607.274.7382
> >>>>>> Ithaca College
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> <http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca>
> >> http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Olga A. Vasquez
> >>>> Department of Communication
> >>>> UCSD
> >>>> 9500 Gilman Drive
> >>>> La Jolla, CA 92093
> >>>> (858) 534-6284
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Hi all,
> >> Thanks for your interest regarding the history of CHAT and the
> potential
> >> ISCAR panel. Mike has forwarded some solid names on which to draw.
> >> Steve's ideas regarding a master bibliography sound great. While we
> are
> >> at it, why not consider a collection of essays or writings for a book?
> >>
> >> As far as the panel is concerned, I would be happy to define a
> direction
> >> or write a proposal as soon as I can confirm the possibility of my
> >> attending the conference. Second, I'd appreciate input from others
> >> regarding those scholars who should be contacted as potential panelists
> >> or contributors in some way. As a newcomer, I'd be loathe to leave
> >> someone out and am relying on your expertise. So, please forward your
> >> suggestions. In the meantime, if Olga could let me know what kind of
> >> information she needs, I'll do a little work behind the scenes.
> >> Best,
> >> Cathrene
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr. M. Cathrene Connery
> >> Assistant Professor of Education
> >> 607.274.7382
> >> Ithaca College
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> Tony Whitson
> UD School of Education
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> _______________________________
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> "those who fail to reread
> are obliged to read the same story everywhere"
> -- Roland Barthes, S/Z (1970)
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