Re: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.

Martin

     Interesting you saying this as it reminded me of a person who
once mentioned your name to me, (who I think you knew although I
could misremember), Jean McPhail. It was she who first brought
Merleau-Ponty to my attention.

Ed Wall

>Paul, it would be great to talk more about Merleau-Ponty - my favorite
>phenomenologist!
>
>
>On 6/28/07 3:52 PM, "Paul Dillon" <phd_crit_think@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Exactly! So many new inventions of the wheel in the space where the
>> requirements for academic achievement produce generational amnesias.
>>
>> Why is it that the fascist Heidegger has generated so much inked smirched
>> papeer while the french resistance leader Merleau-Ponty has been largely
>> forgotten. Could it be that the social context favors the kinds
>>of ideas that
>> fit well and excludes those that don't?? Does the way a person walks having
>> anything to do with how s/he talks?
>>
>> Paul Dillon
>>
>> Ed Wall <ewall@umich.edu> wrote:
>> Where? Sounds a bit like Merleau-Ponty to me. For instance, Chapter 6
>> of the Phenomenology of Perception is 'The Body as Expression and
>> Speech.'
>>
>> Ed Wall
>>
>>> I was actually thinking about a more funda_mental_ level, the embodied
>>> cognition position. I recently reviewed a book for the prestigious MCA
>>> called _Embodiment and Cognitive Science_ by Raymond Gibbs. Here is
>>> Gibbs own summary of the book:
>>>
>>> People's subjective, felt experiences of their bodies in action provide
>>> part of the fundamental grounding for language and thought. Cognition is
>>> what occurs when the body engages the physical, cultural world and must
>>> be studied in terms of the dynamical interactions between people and the
>>> environment. Human language and thought emerge from recurring patterns
>>> of embodied activity that constrain ongoing intelligent behavior. We
>>> must not assume cognition to be purely internal, symbolic, computational
>>> and disembodied, but seek out the gross and detailed ways that language
>>> and thought are inextricably shaped by embodied action. (pg 9).
>>>
>>> So maybe the question is not "What do you think?" but "Where does that
>>> thought come from?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Cunningham
>>> Indiana University
>>>
>>> Ancora Imparo!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>> On Behalf Of Mike Cole
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:59 PM
>>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.
>>>
>>> Ditto work of McNeil and Goldin-Meadow.
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On 6/28/07, xmcabb@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Michael Roth's research on gestures would seem to indicate yes.
>>>> bb
>>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>> From: "Cunningham, Donald James"
>>>>> Great quote Bill!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question, though. Is the body itself a tool for thought?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Cunningham
>>>>> Indiana University
>>>>>
>>>>> Ancora Imparo!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
>>> [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>>>>> On Behalf Of xmcabb@comcast.net
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:34 AM
>>>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>>> Subject: [xmca] Looking forward by looking back, sort of.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lesley.edu/faculty/wbarowy/c7010/Licklider.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary
>>>>>
>>>>> Man-computer symbiosis is an expected development in cooperative
>>>>> interaction between men and electronic computers. It will involve
>>> very
>>>>> close coupling between the human and the electronic members of the
>>>>> partnership. The main aims are 1) to let computers facilitate
>>>>> formulative thinking as they now facilitate the solution of
>>> formulated
>>>>> problems, and 2) to enable men and computers to cooperate in making
>>>>> decisions and controlling complex situations without inflexible
>>>>> dependence on predetermined programs. In the anticipated symbiotic
>>>>> partnership, men will set the goals, formulate the hypotheses,
> >> determine
>>>>> the criteria, and perform the evaluations. Computing machines will
>>> do
>>>>> the routinizable work that must be done to prepare the way for
>>> insights
>>>>> and decisions in technical and scientific thinking. Preliminary
>>> analyses
>>>>> indicate that the symbiotic partnership will perform intellectual
>>>>> operations much more effectively than man alone can perform them.
>>>>> Prerequisites for the achieveme
>>>>> nt of
>>>>> the effective, cooperative association include developments in
>>> computer
>>>>> time sharing, in memory components, in memory organization, in
>>>>> programming languages, and in input and output equipment.
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