Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech

Hi Julian and Phil,
Thanks. These will be of great help to us.
Minati

On 5/3/07, Phil Chappell <philchappell@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Baldry and Thibault's work, which Jay Lemke alludes to, offers
> methodological ideas that I find really useful in classroom
> "discourse" analysis. They cite four criteria for attributing
> semiotic significance on a particular bodily act.
>
> 1. Semiotic significance of a particular part of the body involved in
> the act. Facial gestures usually involve semiosis of affect; spatial
> distance with power and hierarchy (social); and posture with personal
> defence.
>
> 2. Bodily action links cross-modally with other semiotic aspects of
> the discourse event/activity, such that meaning is created on the
> basis of these co-contextualising relations.
>
> 3. Such bodily actions are ascribed the status of dialogic acts
> rather than behvioural units. The authors use the gesture of smiling
> here to show a syntagmatic relation of Bodily Act^Response to Bodily
> Act - a dialogic exchange relation.
>
> 4. A bodily act can function as a semiotic feature having semantic
> commonalities (Jay's covariate semantic relationships) across
> modalities within the same discourse event/activity..."formally
> distinct events elements in a text are linked on the basis of their
> belonging to a common semantic class" (p. 179). This would equate to
> cohesion if doing a purely linguistic analysis of the event. I'm
> finding it an incredibly interesting lens through which to gaze at
> classroom video/audio-taped data.
>
> Of course, the book goes much farther than this, with sections on
> analysing web pages and film texts and genres.
>
> Baldry, & Thibault 2006, Multimodal transcription and text analysis:
> a multimedia toolkit and coursebook, Equinox, Oakville, CT.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> On 03/05/2007, at 9:51 PM, Michael A. Evans wrote:
>
> > Julian,
> >
> > All of these sound wonderful - if you can send citations, links, or
> > copies
> > of the articles and issues you mention, I'd be very
> > appreciative...I'm going
> > to ask my math ed colleague if he knows about the working group on
> > gesture
> > and embodied cognition in PME because this is one definite line of
> > analysis
> > in my work...
> >
> > Along the embodied cognition lines, a piece by Michael Anderson
> > made an
> > interesting (though far from complete) attempt to establish points
> > where
> > embodied cognition and situated cognition become
> > intertwined...hopefully,
> > the references you send will fill in more dots...here's the
> > reference (and
> > I'd be happy to forward a copy if needed):
> >
> > Anderson, M.L. (2003). Embodied cognition: A field guide. Artificial
> > Intelligence, 149, 91-130...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Michael~
> > --
> > ____________________________________
> > Michael A. Evans
> > Assistant Professor
> > Instructional Design & Technology Program
> > School of Education
> > Virginia Tech
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Julian Williams <julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk>
> >> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 09:41:18 +0100
> >> To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >> Cc: <andreas.koukkoufis@manchester.ac.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
> >>
> >> Michael/Minati
> >>
> >> There is a journal issue of RELIME (special issue editor Luis
> >> Radford)
> >> just out
> >> on semiotics and culture: Andreas Koukkoufis and I have a paper
> >> about use of
> >> manipulatives (gesture and speech) in teaching about integers through
> >> games/RME
> >> method - plus there is a special issue of Ed Stud in Maths (ESM)
> >> under review
> >> on gesture and multimodality (eds Edwards Arzarello, Radford) and
> >> we have a
> >> paper in that too. There are some conference papers in procs from
> >> PME 26
> >> (Melbourne) in the Working group on gestures and embodied
> >> cognition: the ESM
> >> issue largely comes formthat workign group.
> >>
> >> You could also look for Radford in ESM
> >>
> >> I could send papers to people who want them.
> >>
> >> Julian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting minati panda <pandam66@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi Michael,
> >>> I would like to know more about your work. I work on folk
> >>> mathematics.
> >>> Currently, I am working with Mike on folk games where we are
> >>> using both
> >>> discourse analysis and semiotic analysis. Will be happy to read
> >>> more about
> >>> your work/querries.
> >>> Minati
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/2/07, Michael A. Evans <mae@vt.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Wow, Jay - this is wonderful stuff! Once a draft paper gets its
> >>>> legs later
> >>>> in the summer, I'd be happy to share with the list (for those
> >>>> who might be
> >>>> interested in this type analysis as well)...
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Michael~
> >>>> --
> >>>> ____________________________________
> >>>> Michael A. Evans
> >>>> Assistant Professor
> >>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
> >>>> School of Education
> >>>> Virginia Tech
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Jay Lemke <jaylemke@umich.edu>
> >>>>> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:33:17 -0400
> >>>>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have already been given some good leads in this area. In
> >>>>> general,
> >>>>> multimodal semiotic analysis, which incorporates discourse
> >>>>> analysis
> >>>>> as one component, is widely recognized as the next step in the
> >>>>> evolution of DA, which was never intended to ignore activity
> >>>>> and the
> >>>>> context of situation, but until fairly recently there have not
> >>>>> been
> >>>>> analyses of visual images, gesture and movment, music, etc.
> >>>>> that were
> >>>>> both "semantically aware", i.e. linked to meaning, and compatible
> >>>>> enough with linguistic analysis of meaning to be combined.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some of the early pioneers of linguistic DA, like Gunther Kress
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Theo van Leeuwen, write mainly about multimodal or multimedia
> >>>>> analysis today. Paul Thibault and Anthony Baldry have developed
> >>>>> systems for multimedia corpus analysis and multimodal
> >>>>> transcription
> >>>>> based on the principles of the earlier linguistic discourse
> >>>>> analysis.
> >>>>> There is a conference on linguistic DA and multimodal analysis in
> >>>>> Helsinki in July (google along with the organizer, Eija
> >>>>> Ventola), was
> >>>>> a broader one on multimodality last year in Pavia, Italty (google
> >>>>> with Anthony Baldry, TICOM) which will issue a volume this
> >>>>> year. Adam
> >>>>> Kendon, another pioneer of gesture analysis, spoke at that one (so
> >>>>> did I), and his work for some time now has integrated gesture
> >>>>> analysis with the broader situational and activity context.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On my website you can see the syllabus for a course I did last
> >>>>> year
> >>>>> on video and multimedia analysis, and some earlier versions of it
> >>>>> that showed the integration with discourse analysis (but it's too
> >>>>> much for one semester). Go to homepage, then Student's Entrance to
> >>>>> see course information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good luck!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JAY.
> >>>>> www.umich.edu/~jaylemke
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Wanted to thank everyone who forwarded articles, links, and
> >>>>>> tips...this
> >>>> will
> >>>>>> be extremely useful as we analyze video data over the summer
> >>>>>> months...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Michael~
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ____________________________________
> >>>>>> Michael A. Evans
> >>>>>> Assistant Professor
> >>>>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
> >>>>>> School of Education
> >>>>>> Virginia Tech
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> Reply-To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity"
> >>>>>>> <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:18:26 +0200
> >>>>>>> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Analyses of gesture & speech
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think it should not be too difficult (cf all the helpful
> >>>>>>> comments
> >>>> below).
> >>>>>>> Capture all your data on a godd audio video, watching the
> >>>>>>> number
> >>>> count.
> >>>>>>> Then using perhaps Sinclair and Coultard analyse the
> >>>>>>> language ( which
> >>>> in
> >>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>> case overlaps beween speakers), then go through it again,
> >>>>>>> this time
> >>>>>>> matching
> >>>>>>> the gestures to thre language. Once you have paired
> >>>>>>> language and
> >>>> gesture,
> >>>>>>> then you have to work out why this should be working
> >>>>>>> together: this
> >>>> is
> >>>>>>> monstrously time-consuming, but it will get you where you
> >>>>>>> want to go.
> >>>>>>> Carol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 29/04/07, Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth@uvic.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You may find my review useful for seeing what has been
> >>>>>>>> published in
> >>>>>>>> the different disciplines referred to on the list:
> >>>>>>>> Roth, W.-M. (2002). Gestures: Their role in teaching and
> >>>>>>>> learning.
> >>>>>>>> Review of Educational Research, 71, 365-392.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> also, in
> >>>>>>>> Roth, W.-M., & Lee, Y. J. (2004). Interpreting unfamiliar
> >>>>>>>> graphs: A
> >>>>>>>> generative, activity-theoretic model. Educational Studies in
> >>>>>>>> Mathematics, 57, 265-290.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> we cover mathematical cognition, gestures, and CHAT.
> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
> >>>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 28-Apr-07, at 8:40 AM, Michael A. Evans wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I was hoping you could point me to resources that critique
> >>>>>>>> discourse
> >>>>>>>> analysis as an overly linguistic approach to interaction
> >>>>>>>> and meaning
> >>>>>>>> making...my request is based on a desire to ground analysis
> >>>>>>>> of video
> >>>>>>>> data of
> >>>>>>>> children using manipulatives (both physical and graphically-
> >>>>>>>> based)
> >>>> in
> >>>>>>>> collaborative efforts...what I want to capture is not only the
> >>>> speech
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> also gesture of primary students as they try to make sense
> >>>>>>>> of basic
> >>>>>>>> geometric concepts and principles using manipulatives
> >>>>>>>> (tangrams,
> >>>>>>>> pentominoes, geoboards, etc)...I'm searching for both
> >>>>>>>> philosophical
> >>>>>>>> (Vygotsky, Dewey, Pierce, Mead) and methodological
> >>>>>>>> references that
> >>>>>>>> emphasize
> >>>>>>>> the need to examine gesture and speech simultaneously...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As for the latter, I've recently been working with David
> >>>>>>>> McNeill and
> >>>> his
> >>>>>>>> group at the U. of Chicago (http://
> >>>>>>>> mcneilllab.uchicago.edu/), but
> >>>> was
> >>>>>>>> hoping
> >>>>>>>> I could get more leads from the group...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>> Michael~
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> ____________________________________
> >>>>>>>> Michael A. Evans
> >>>>>>>> Assistant Professor
> >>>>>>>> Instructional Design & Technology Program
> >>>>>>>> School of Education
> >>>>>>>> Virginia Tech
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