Re: [xmca] Re: AERA Kudos

From: deborah downing-wilson <ddowningw who-is-at gmail.com>
Date: Sun Apr 15 2007 - 12:18:01 PDT

Will someone post the reference for the Damasio paper for those of us who
missed it.

Thanks,

Deb

On 4/15/07, Ana Marjanovic-Shane <ana@zmajcenter.org> wrote:
>
> Cathrene, Mike, Jay, Elina, Galina and all,
> I had a long phone conversation with Elina yesterday about the session
> on the Qualitative Methods and Quality in Education and CHAT -- the one
> Jay described below. I was so sorry not to be present in person. The
> papers I received earlier are very stimulating and thought provoking,
> even on the level of skimming.
> Jay's remark about "bridging the phenomenology of direct first-person
> experiencing with the semiotic (3rd person) analysis" is an interesting
> way of conceptualizing and seeing the relationship between the emotional
> and the cognitive aspects of interaction with the world, if I am
> understanding the mentioned relationship correctly. We also have, to add
> to this, work by people like Matusov who are trying to understand the
> dialogic nature of development in which the second person (thou, du,
> tois, ti -- singular "you" in English, German, French and
> Russian/Serbian) seems to play an important role in discovering
> relationships and processes and units of analysis.
>
> The CHAT "Mini course" had much fewer students than in the previous
> years, and we don't know why that happened exactly. But it was as
> stimulating as ever, for those who attended it.
>
> Another excellent CHAT session I attended was the one on the Role of
> Pretend and Improvisation in the development of children and adults with
> Artin Goncu, Anthony Perone, Carrie Lobman and Keith Sawyer. One of the
> very interesting issues that was discussed in their papers and later in
> Vera John Steiner's remarks was the issue of the dynamic relationship
> between the "scripted" (the known, the stable or the given) aspect of
> situations and the "emergent" (the new, the improvisational, the
> unexpected, etc). In its own way, this also connects to the issue of
> individual and group identity over shorter or longer time-scales and
> over the first, second, third person experiencing.
>
> I also have to mention the more than excellent Business meeting panel
> and Eugen Matusov's presentation that was so well coordinated with the
> panel. The main topic, if I can borrow Matusov's words was really how to
> take back the real meaning and action from the hijacked concept of "No
> Child Left Behind". Ellice Forman, Leslie Herrenkohl, Kris Gutierrez
> together with Eugene Matusov, raised very important issues and showed
> optimistic possibilities, if only glimpses, on the way out of the
> dead-end quandary in which American education seems to be stuck.
>
> Talking about kudos, we need to give it, first and foremost, to
> Jennifer Vadeboncoeur and Keith Sawyer for their incredible work on
> organizing the program for this conference. And of course, to all the
> participants who worked on their papers and presentations and made the
> program so exciting.
>
> Ana
>
>
>
> Jay Lemke wrote:
> >
> > Mike and all,
> >
> > I also thought that the two CHAT SIG sessions I participated in were
> > very stimulating and well organized ... thanks to Ana and to Elina!
> >
> > In both there was discussion of the role of affect and
> > personal-interpersonal dimensions of learning, and of research. I am
> > particularly interested these days in bridging the phenomenology of
> > direct or first-person experiencing with the semiotic (3rd person)
> > analysis of how we engage with learning environments (which means
> > really ALL environments!) across different timescales.
> >
> > There was also interesting discussion of the use of various
> > qualitative research methods within a CHAT framework, and of CHAT
> > itself as paradigm (including values), conceptual framework, specific
> > theory, and research methodology. It seemed clear that various
> > researchers adopt CHAT at different levels, from a life commitment to
> > a technique of identifying useful units of analysis, and that working
> > with it at one of these levels does not necessarily imply the others.
> >
> > In the Friday session we had a particularly fascinating and personal
> > account by Galina Zukerman of a 10-year longitudinal study that made
> > connections between the democratic vs. elitist effects of education
> > and the structure of classroom organization and student initiatives.
> > And many other very good papers for which I was happy to be the
> > discussant ... though there was far too much to do justice to in my
> > short time for comments. A very active discussion followed, well past
> > the end of the session time.
> >
> > If I get some time, maybe not for a while yet, I will try to post some
> > more notes.
> >
> > And the Damasio and other MB&E articles do look interesting in this
> > connection, too.
> >
> > JAY.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:33 AM 4/15/2007, you wrote:
> >> I read the article by Damasio and colleague that Gordon recommended,
> and
> >> found it tremendously relevant to a study I'm currently working on with
> >> doctoral student Elizabeth Daigle. It's a protocol analysis of a high
> >> school
> >> senior who's writing an interpretive paper on Shakespeare's Much Ado
> >> about
> >> Nothing. What's so interesting is that she (the student) really
> >> struggles to
> >> interpret the play, but has an emotional disposition that she can
> >> produce an
> >> acceptable paper, and a set of writing strategies that, coupled with
> her
> >> positive affect toward school, enables her to produce one. The MBE
> >> paper has
> >> been very helpful to us in establishing what's often missing from
> >> discussions about learning strategies, which is a student's emotional
> >> orientation toward the general prospect of succeeding in a school task.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu
> >> [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> >> Behalf Of Mike Cole
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:14 PM
> >> To: Cathrene Connery
> >> Cc: Culture Activity eXtended Mind
> >> Subject: [xmca] Re: AERA Kudos
> >>
> >> Sounds great, Cathrene.
> >> >From all those who made it to AERA, what new ideas and inspirations
> did
> >> >you
> >> get that we might want to discuss?
> >> I just downloaded the entire issue of Mind, Brain, & Education that
> >> Gordon
> >> tipped us to. This movement is really interesting in many ways. Has
> >> anyone
> >> read any of the articles yet?
> >>
> >> mike
> >>
> >> On 4/14/07, Cathrene Connery <ConneryC@cwu.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Colleagues:
> >> > Much thanks to Ana and all the panelists and presenters at
> AERA. Both
> >> > the CHAT symposium, presentations, and business meeting were
> >> > outstanding venues to explore new ideas, receive support from
> esteemed
> >> > mentors, and validate our common efforts. The nurturing that was
> >> > exhibited toward myself and other novice researchers was especially
> >> appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > I once read Luria commented that Vygotsky was not only a genius, but
> >> > one of the most positive, interpersonal individuals he had ever met.
> >> > How refreshing that his legacy continues today. My experience has
> been
> >> > that such support and dialogue is devoid from the vast majority of
> >> > academic circles. Thanks again to all who shared their talent,
> >> > expertise, and commitment to each other and the field as a whole.
> >> > Cathrene
> >> >
> >> > M. Cathrene Connery, Ph.D.
> >> > Assistant Professor of Bilingual & TESL Education Co-coordinator,
> >> > Bilingual / TESL Program Central Washington University
> >> >
> >> >
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Deborah Downing Wilson
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University of California San Diego
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