Anyone visited El Salvador, Rio de Janeiro, Baghdad, Darfur of Zimbabwe
recently?
mike
On 3/31/07, Phil Chappell <philchappell@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Andy, my issue was merely a worry that this influential writer's
> rhetoric would provide more ammunition for the current community of
> warmongers, including the parties you mention. My own mistrust of
> Pinker is in his writing on language as biological instinct, which
> admittedly probably led me to post this in the first place.
>
> By the way, social violence as crime has in some instances grown as
> new social violent crimes have emerged to be anti-social (verbal
> abuse, perhaps, and Bourdieu's concepts of symbolic violence?).
>
> Phil
>
> > I only read a couple of bits of the article Phil, but I do recall
> > reading some of the literature from Britain around moral panics
> > which included convincing arguments that (in Britain of the 80s)
> > ordinary social violence has been in a secular decline for a
> > century or two. I know that here in Melbourne not only does the
> > crime rate continue to decline, but it declines in the face of a
> > continual rise in what counts as crime not to mention perception of
> > crime rising due to ever more comprehensive penetration of the mass
> > media into people's consciousness.
> > I mean, obviously I don't blame 'left anthropologists' - I blame
> > the capitalist media and neo-con politicians.
> > What was the issue with this guy's article?
> > Andy
> > At 09:16 AM 30/03/2007 +1000, you wrote:
> >> Steven Pinker writes a piece claiming the "leftist anthropologists'
> >> celebration of the noble savage" was mistaken and that we are
> >> becoming a much less violent species. Whilst referring to interesting
> >> data, and more "interesting" explanations, Pinker hedges toward
> >> celebrating our current peaceful state...rather a worry.
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >> http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge206.html#pinker
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