Maybe new forms of connectivity will create new forms of rationality (maybe Peirce was part Nostradamus).
Michael
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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of Mike Cole
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Subject: Re: [xmca] Subtleties of Presentation Media
Ugh... michael..... rationality in the sense of having a reason, not
necessarily being ugh ugh
logical/rationa?
mike
On 2/16/07, Michael Glassman <MGlassman@ehe.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
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> David,
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> What an interesting story. I have been doing some reading and thinking on
> connectivity lately and have come to the conclusion that three little
> letters - www - are going to change our universe in ways that we can't
> imagine. One of the ways I believe it is going to change things is by
> changing the concept of boundaries, and the notion that ideas can somehow
> can be treated as property. That's right - I think there is a real
> possibility that intellectual property will become a thing of the past. Is
> this a good thing or a bad thing. It's hard to say, but I think it is
> coming. Industries that live on intellectual property rights - like
> recording, publishing, entertainment - are fighting like mad, but I'm not
> sure they will be able to do anything to stop the wave.
>
> So getting back to your particular scenario. What would have been the
> difference if the TA found your Power Point presentation on the internet,
> and downloaded it, or better yet hyperlinked it (so many of my students
> bring their portables to class - and at Cornell my nephew had to buy one as
> a freshman). And then some of those students thought there was something
> interesting and hyperlinked it to some people they know. Unless you had a
> trackback function, you wouldn't even know where it was going or who was
> using it. People would change it, people would add to it, people would
> desecrate it. But every person using the idea would be equal because what
> was important were the ideas that you created and they took on a life of
> their own. Perhaps the slides would come back to you in a form you didn't
> even recognize. But it wouldn't matter because you connected with all of
> these people - your ideas became viral rather than remaining
> hierarchical. The only thing that creates boundaries on the ideas is
> rationality. Of cours there may be a really dark side to this whole
> phenomenon, there always is. But like I said, I'm thinkng we need to
> redefine our ideas of boundaries and ownership.
>
> Michael
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> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu on behalf of David H Kirshner
> Sent: Fri 2/16/2007 11:07 AM
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: [xmca] Subtleties of Presentation Media
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> A few days ago I gave a PowerPoint presentation of my research to our
> department. After the presentation, a graduate teaching assistant in the
> department whom I've known for a number of years asked me if he could have
> a copy of the presentation so that he could follow-up with one of his
> classes (some of his students also were at the presentation). I
> immediately
> agreed, but after some debate with myself, I decided to give him hard copy
> of the slides instead. The medium of PowerPoint would erode the boundaries
> between him and me.
>
> Here's a snippet from my note to him. I wonder if this phenomenon has been
> observed/discussed before in the media literature.
> Comments welcome.
>
> David Kirshner
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> Hi xxxx,
>
> I've copied out all of my slides (about 50), and left them in your
> mailbox.
> I'd intended to send you the PowerPoint presentation itself, but in the
> end
> felt uncomfortable about doing that.
> It's an interesting media phenomenon. If I give you photocopies of the
> slides and you distribute them for discussion to your students, it's very
> clear what are the boundaries between my contribution, and yours. The
> slides are mine, the discussion is yours. However, the PowerPoint medium
> is
> inherently incomplete. If you present my slides as a PowerPoint
> presentation, it no longer is possible to clearly demarcate our
> boundaries.
> That's because the in the PowerPoint setting, the slides are inseparable
> from the commentary. Thus it's not possible to distinguish what part of
> the
> commentary is you and what part is me.
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