Re: CoP? Re: [xmca] A CHAT initiative on the doctorate?

From: Jianwei ZHANG (zhangjw@kf.oise.utoronto.ca)
Date: Tue May 16 2006 - 09:15:25 PDT


Dear Michael,

I'm interested in this paper too! I have been thinking of dialectics in
knowledge building communities, and would love to read this paper.

Thanks,

Jianwei

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On 15-May-06, at 1:03 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth wrote:

> Hi all,
> if anyone is interested in the question of CoP and CHAT, my colleague
> and former grad student Yew Jin LEE and I have an article coming out
> in a new review journal published by the European Association for
> Research on Learning and Instruction. Those interested let me know and
> I can make available (for personal use following copyright) the galley
> version of this article re-theorizing CoP and C of Learners from a
> dialectical perspective.
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
>
>
> On 15-May-06, at 8:54 AM, Tony Whitson wrote:
>
> Interesting idea, Don.
>
> While we're at this, I'm wondering about Legitimate Peripheral
> Participation (LPP) in Communities of Practice (CoP) as a related
> framework (i.e., Lave, Wenger, et al.).
>
> CoP theory seems more immediately obvious as a framework for design
> for doctoral preparation; but CoP & CHAT seem compatable, overlapping,
> etc. but not identical. Don, your suggestion could provide a concrete
> focus for exploring the relationships between these frameworks.
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2006, Cunningham, Donald James wrote:
>
>> I have been interested in the Carnegie Initiative on the Doctorate
>> (there is a recent article about it in the Educational Researcher -
>> http://www.aera.net/uploadedFiles/Publications/Journals/
>> Educational_Rese
>> archer/3503/3592-03_Shulman_RN_C.pdf). It occurred to me that in our
>> quest to identify good existing examples of zopeds, an alternative
>> strategy might be to design one. Often it is easier to understand
>> something you have created than something you are looking at from the
>> outside. What would a doctoral program built along the principles of
>> CHAT look like? For example, would there be "leading activities"
>> and/or
>> "social situations of development" and/or
>> "meaning-formation-activities". If so, what are some examples? Would
>> using Engestrom's triangles assist us in designing or revising a
>> doctoral program? In what way would the essence of a zoped be
>> embodied?
>> Maybe some of you already know of such programs and could tell us
>> about
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone interested in exploring this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Don Cunningham
>>
>> Indiana University
>>
>>
>>
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