and virtual deceivers, theifs, child molesters as well, don't you think?
mike
On 3/6/06, Russell, Donna L <russelldl@umkc.edu> wrote:
>
> hello linda
>
> i think that 'reality' virtual or otherwise deals with the authenticity of
> your responses (as in how your responses are validated by consequences in
> the context) i think virtual realities such as you describe will become more
> involving as the quality of the human computer interface develops
>
> language has been our gauge and response to reality and children's
> development is monitored by the development of language memes- with emerging
> technologies technology memes are created to gauge development and resultant
> authenticity to virtual realities. i believe in the future virtual realities
> will include not a rough interface between the human and digitial 'reality'
> -- rather there will be a meme bot that contains your aspects of your
> understandings and knowledge that will make the engagement more 'real' and
> more authentic-
>
> in the future these virtual representations will interact as information
> assistants, virtual coaches, virtual sales clerks, virtual entertainers, and
> virtual instructors. i am part of the virtual instructors pilot research
> group which is looking at research in the development of these virtual
> humans- i am interested in the design of learning environments using these
> virtual humans and the kinds and qualities of learning that are potentially
> available in these 'realities'
>
> donna
>
> Donna L. Russell, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Polin, Linda" <Linda.Polin@pepperdine.edu>
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Experience: material, ideal, real, imagined in MMOGs
>
> > Hi Mike and X'ers,
> >
> > I am both playing in and writing about an MMOG at the moment, with a
> > group of doctoral students who are no doubt lurking on this list.
> >
> > I'm playing in World of Warcraft (or World of Warcrack, as it is
> > often called for good reason). I am very interested in the way in
> > which the designers have shaped interaction and play, with regard to
> > both the client interface for playing, and the sociocultural
> > structures around tasks and interactions in the game play. [I'm also
> > playing in Second Life, but that is a very different creature.]
> >
> > In WoW, I've played alongside 12 year olds and old farts like myself;
> > college kids complaining about the bandwidth in the dorms, and
> > mommies who periodically have to go AFK BRB (away from keyboard; be
> > right back) to change a diaper. So far none offers any evidence of
> > confusing what you are calling reality and fantasy, although almost
> > all have remarked on one occasion or another about the immersive
> > power of the world to 'wow' them (pun intended) and engage them
> > deeply. Everyone who plays has a story about losing track of time in
> > significant ways. That is immersion. And I think Michelle's remarks
> > with regard to "flow" come the closest to describing what is going on.
> >
> > Is it material? Because there is an economic system in play, and
> > objects of desire, there is real work happening, and I am NOT
> > referencing only the "gold farmers" in China using game characters to
> > gather game gold to be sold for real money to players who want an
> > easy way to get ahead in the game but lack the time or tenacity to do
> > the grind work. There are also in-game activities analogous to real
> > work and real world life.
> >
> > Real work: For instance, the guildmaster of my guild is a day trader
> > who spends a lot of time working the Auction House (in-game EBay kind
> > of thing) to make the game money he needs to support his character's
> > needs (e.g., trick out his ride, in this case a white tiger). There
> > are guilds that players belong to, which function as both family and
> > school in a way reminiscent of the Brazilian "Samba schools" Seymour
> > Papert described. Here though, instead of preparing for Mardi Gras
> > competitions with other Samba Schools and having fun, it's about
> > preparing for competitions with other players and having fun.
> >
> > Real play (within play): For instance, at the recent Winter Veil
> > Festival I got to drink strong ale, and after two drinks, my screen
> > was a bit blurry. After three drinks, it was significantly worse and
> > my mouse actions were less accurate. I was drunk, albeit virtually
> > so, and my game play was impaired.
> >
> > I would propose that, within the game world, these analogous elements
> > make it a KIND of real world, rather than a fantasy world. There is a
> > very real, game-specific culture that players rely upon to make their
> > way in that world. There are real relationships, real traditions and
> > ways of being in the world, real identity markers, divisions of labor
> > and opportunities for collaboration, sub-cultures, mediational
> > objects with embedded histories that support new learners, etc etc
> > etc. WoW is fascinating to me because it is NOT a blurring of
> > reality; it is an ALTERNATE (not alternative) reality, an alternate
> > real culture. By virtue of having a discernible culture, is it not real?
> >
> > There is an immense amount of material to talk about here, but this
> > is an interesting turn on XMCA and I'm hoping we'll have some 'time'
> > to discuss more. I'd point you to our blog on this, but it's not yet
> > ready for prime time consumption.
> >
> > Why must we refer to reality as if there were only one possible? =grin=
> >
> > Lindax
> > (aka Hallgrima, a level 44 Gnome Warlock)
> >
> >
> > Linda Polin, PhD
> > Davidson Professor of Education and Technology
> > Director, EdD in Educational Technology
> > 310-568-5641; Skype: profpolin
> > gsep.pepperdine.edu/~lpolin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:07 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In various situations (in particular, I am thinking of various
> >>> massive
> >>> multi-user games and related cyber-interactional meeting places)
> >>> it appears that people can, perhaps cannot help at times,
> >>> confusing what
> >>> we
> >>> would normally refer to as "fantasy" and "reality."
> >>>
> >>> There is an extensive literature on the development of this
> >>> distinction in
> >>> children's development, but I am seeking research on the
> >>> distinction's presumed presence or absence among adults.
> >>>
> >>> Any and all help appreciated
> >>> mike
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