Re: Talk of courses and discussions

From: Mike Cole (
Date: Thu Jun 02 2005 - 07:23:19 PDT

Phil et al--

Please identify sxtarting texts and we will make them available in a set
under the "papers
for discussion" part of the xmca web page.

I believe there is a chapter from Ochs and Schiefflin that is quite relevant
here, but look to
others for suggestions. I believe a google search of xmca will turn up
Hasan, Halliday, Bernstein,
and other relevant figures. And relevant discussion.

I think it would help, phil, if you would pull together a "mini-curriculum"
for us to use as common
tool. The object is more widely share, methinks, than you estimate. But
finding volunteers to do some
mediating may be a more difficult task.

On 6/2/05, Phil Chappell <> wrote:
> On 02/06/2005, at 5:35 AM, Ana Marjanovic-Shane wrote:
> > What I am interested in is developing a CHAT theory of language -- so
> > all these different ways to look at it as an activity are very
> > helpful.
> > Ana
> Dear Ana, Mike, and All,
> I'm a little hesitant to go too far here, as my own previous attempts
> here to sow the seeds of a group object/motive of discussing AT and a
> theory of language haven't really resulted in much - I often wonder
> whether any mention of systemics and Michael Halliday results in an
> impulsive "hit hit the delete" response ;-) And whither Bernstein...
> But Ana's interest is an interest that many here have, I feel, and it
> has often been said that the xmca community lacks a fully articulated
> theory of language, just as the SFL community is often derided for
> lacking a fully articulate theory of human learning. I'm struggling
> right now with a study from the SFL "Sydney school" in an attempt to
> make explicit a pedagogical approach that foregrounds the linguistic
> features that afford students access to future human activity that they
> may otherwise be denied. But that is a red herring here.
> Should anyone here wish to pursue the discussion of a theory of
> language "for chat", I'd like to offer up the suggestion that we read
> Gordon Well's paper: The complementary contributions of Halliday and
> Vygotsky to a 'language-based theory of learning', and I also think
> that the various ecological views of language may be worthwhile to
> pursue.
> So, any takers to assemble a couple of papers? I have an electronic
> version of Gordon's paper that we will need to get approval to use
> first.
> I'll leave it there and hope there may be a couple here interested in
> making a motive.......
> Phil

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