Re: T and I two days later

Date: Sat Apr 30 2005 - 11:29:18 PDT

I found myself wondering about the amount of paper used. In the first
narrative it was almost 15 pages. If its a small classroom of 25 that is
almost a ream of paper.

Hmm, its beginning to look more like an Activity system.

Mike Cole wrote:

> Interesting questions, interpretations, and observations regarding the
> first interactions concerning
> T and geometry. Some people were interested in the next installment.
> As I noted when posting the prior example, it was not selected as
> typical of the activity system where
> homework is imposed by the Club who are supported in this imposition
> by the parents and distrusted
> by the community for fear that they do not impose homework rigidly
> enough. (See paper by Nocon and
> colleague on "School invades after school"). Nor is T typical in her
> willingness to spend a lot of time
> on homework. Nor is it typical for an undergrad to be able to do this
> level of math. Mixed fractions tend
> to be the upper limit. If there is interest, I can try to arrange for
> a wide range of examples to be posted and
> folks can work at defining typical from the raw data. Up to 48
> generations of fieldnotes to choose from
> covering 16 years.
> But assuming a next example of this pairing is of interest to some,
> here it is.
> mike
> -----------------
> I noticed T was sitting at the same desk as before so I walked up to
> her to see if she was working on math again. Sure enough she had the
> blue (medium difficulty) math sheet. I exclaimed, "Blue again, common,
> where's the green!" T looked up and smiled and then pulled out the
> green (most difficult) sheet as I pulled up a chair.
> Once again the assignment was on volume. This time we were to find the
> volume of pyramids. She didn't have the formula written down, and
> though I thought I knew it I wanted to make sure. I asked several
> adults around me and we agreed that the formula was 1/3Bh but Jim got
> me a geometry book just in case. The first few problems were quite
> easy. The shape was a basic pyramid and all the dimensions were
> provided. T breezed through these problems. The next two problems were
> slightly more complicated as you needed to find the volume of part of
> the shape provided. The first of these problems asked you to find the
> volume of the base. T didn't know how to approach this problem so I
> asked her if she could find the volume of both the big pyramid and the
> top part. She said she could because they were both periods, she then
> understood that to find the volume of the base she would have to
> subtract the top from the bigger pyramid. The next problem applied
> this same technique. Following these problems, the assignment asked
> her to write down the method she had used. T had no problem describing
> this subtraction method so I was confident that she understood what
> she had done. The next few problems were even more complex volumes.
> The last problem was particularly tricky as it gave you the volume of
> a square base pyramid as well as the height, and then asked you to
> find the length and width. I walked T through the system of formula's
> that led to volume = side squared X height. I asked if, with this
> formula and the givens, she could find the length of the side, which
> we agreed was both the length and width, and she said she could. The
> calculations were also tricky as they involved dividing with
> fractions. Once I told her to put the entire volume in improper
> fraction form she had no problem with the long division. In the end we
> needed to use the square root function to find the side length. T
> wasn't familiar with the square root so I explained it to her. I was
> impressed with how quickly she caught on. Once I explained why the
> square root of 4 was 2 and the square root of 9 was 3, she could
> easily tell me the square roots of 16 and 25. This was the end of the
> math homework.
> I asked T if she had done the healthy snack activity and she said she
> hadn't so we decided to do that. This was a fairly straight forward
> activity and I found that she really didn't need my assistance. T is
> apparently quite computer savvy and had no problems finding the
> information on the web. At the end of the activity she wrote a letter
> to the Wiz describing her diet. Instead of a catalogue of items, she
> wrote in terms of what she ate enough of and what she didn't eat
> enough of. Once she had finished the activity she started to
> experiment with imputing different ages and genders into the pyramid
> system to see what the differences would be. At this point her father
> came.

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