RE: looking for Yrjo's paper on values, rubbish etc.

["Kristen Clark" <krclark@ucsd.edu>]

Hi Helena - try this URL (I think it is google's cached version as the paper
has been since removed):

http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:kWcu_bF4rHQJ:www.edu.helsinki.fi/activi
ty/people/engestro/files/Values_and_rubbish_paper.pdf+Values,+Rubbish+and+Wo
rkplace+Learning&hl=en

Hope this helps.
-Kristen

-----Original Message-----
From: Helena Worthen [mailto:hworthen@igc.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:08 AM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Cc: Xmca
Subject: looking for Yrjo's paper on values, rubbish etc.

>
> Hello -- I'm looking for Yrjo's paper mentioned below -- "Values, Rubbish
> and Workplace Learning." Did it get sent to xmca? I have not been able to
> find it on the website. If someone knows where to get it, could you please
> either post it and report where it is? OR send me a copy? It' sounds good!

Thanks -- Helena Worthen
Chicago Labor Education Progarm
University of Illinois
hworthen@uic.edu

>
> >
> > Mike Cole wrote:
> >
> > > Yrjo-- Send along the paper and we can post it on the xmca website.
> > > There is enough
> > > confusion about the expanded triangle now to make it worthwhile to at
> > > least get the
> > > story straight so people are talking about the same thing!
> > > mike
> > >
> > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:29:36 +0100, Yrjö Engeström
> > > <yrjo.engestrom@helsinki.fi> wrote:
> > > > Michael, if exchange has jumped from the S-C-Rules subtriangle to
> > > > C-O-DivLab subtriangle, it is a mistake committed by someone who
made
>
> > > > the graphics for the web page. Please tell me where this faulty
> diagram
> > > > is exactly and I'll get it fixed.
> > > >
> > > > As to your question, you might be interested in a new paper in which
> I
> > > > discuss the spheres of production, exchange, consumption (though not
> > > > distribution) - and not using the triangle this time. The paper is
> > > > titled VALUES, RUBBISH, AND WORKPLACE LEARNING and I'll be happy to
> > > > send it to you if you want.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Yrjö
> > > >
> > > > Wolff-Michael Roth kirjoittaa perjantaina, 12. marraskuuta 2004,
> kello
> > > > 16:44:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I had some trouble with remembering where in YE's triangle go the
> > > > > terms DISTRIBUTION and EXCHANGE. Today I realized for the first
> time
> > > > > that YE used to have EXCHANGE in the S-C-RULES subtriangle but on
> the
> > > > > website has it in the C-O-DivLab subbtriangle.
> > > > >       Does anyone have an idea when this change happened and why
it
>
> > > > > happened?
> > > > >       Has anyone worked on the fact whether it made sense to
> overlay
> > > > > production-consumption-exchange-distribution, which Marx discussed
> at
> > > > > the society level onto YE's triangle, which deals with any local,
> > > > > concretely realized activity?
> > > > > Thanks for any pointers.
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >