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RE: Civil War vs Election

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Wolfowitz was leftist? I did not know that! Please, tell a bit about it.
 
 
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Judy Diamondstone [mailto:jdiamondstone@clarku.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:51 PM
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Asunto: RE: Civil War vs Election

Peter, do you have a source for your statement that Jews vote(d) overwhelmingly democratic? i am assuming that the statistical picture would be more complex -- & show, for instance, perhaps, a generational, if not occupational, divide... Some of the neocons who shaped the international policies of this administration were once left-y Jews (Wolfowitz &??)... They used their old Idealism (things CAN be different) in the service of (?) adult ego-centrism (?) (i.e., the world would be a better place if it behaved and thought like us) to design US imperialism.
Well, I'm uneasy about sending this off, but in the spirit of Veterans Day and trouble-making, I will....
 
Judy
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From: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:36 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: RE: Civil War vs Election

I'm  sure there are many factors. Florida is also home to many Jews (who vote overwhelmingly Democratic) and African Americans (also Dems) and many other relocators from the north. I doubt if I'm really qualified to make sense of it....p

At 01:57 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Yes, that was what I realized. But I was wondering whether there was something else and what was the relation between neo-conservadurism and the old slave traditions. On the other hand, the South is voting Republican since a long time ago. In addition, in some cases, such as Florida, the relation is not straightforward, I guess, since it is linked with the political behavior of the Hispanics and Cuban politics. In short, even though there is a relation, I wondered about its nature and local peculiarities.
 
 
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:30 PM
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Asunto: RE: Civil War vs Election
only simply right now (I've got a manuscript review to complete): the maps overlap to suggest that a great deal of Bush's support comes from states that once advocated slavery (and where the vestiges of slavery are still evident in housing segregation, economic disparities, etc.). Not a very hopeful sign in these times. p

At 12:07 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
This map is worth discussing.
Beyond the descriptive coincidences, how would you put the match in a narrative framework, Peter?
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:51 AM
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Asunto: Fwd: Civil War vs Election