Peter, do you have a source for your statement that
Jews vote(d) overwhelmingly democratic? i am assuming that the statistical
picture would be more complex -- & show, for instance, perhaps, a
generational, if not occupational, divide... Some of the neocons who
shaped the international policies of this administration were once left-y
Jews (Wolfowitz &??)... They used their old Idealism (things CAN
be different) in the service of (?) adult ego-centrism
(?) (i.e., the world would be a better place if it behaved and
thought like us) to design US imperialism.
Well, I'm uneasy about sending this off, but in
the spirit of Veterans Day and trouble-making, I
will....
Judy
I'm sure
there are many factors. Florida is also home to many Jews (who vote
overwhelmingly Democratic) and African Americans (also Dems) and many other
relocators from the north. I doubt if I'm really qualified to make sense of
it....p
At 01:57 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Yes, that was what I realized. But I was wondering whether there
was something else and what was the relation between neo-conservadurism
and the old slave traditions. On the other hand, the South is voting
Republican since a long time ago. In addition, in some cases, such as
Florida, the relation is not straightforward, I guess, since it is linked
with the political behavior of the Hispanics and Cuban politics. In short,
even though there is a relation, I wondered about its nature and local
peculiarities.
David Preiss,
M.Phil.
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- De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
- Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:30 PM
- Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
- Asunto: RE: Civil War vs Election
- only simply right now (I've got a manuscript review to complete):
the maps overlap to suggest that a great deal of Bush's support comes
from states that once advocated slavery (and where the vestiges of
slavery are still evident in housing segregation, economic disparities,
etc.). Not a very hopeful sign in these times. p
- At 12:07 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
- This map is worth discussing.
- Beyond the descriptive coincidences, how would you put the match
in a narrative framework, Peter?
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- David Preiss, M.Phil.
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- De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
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- Asunto: Fwd: Civil War vs Election