Re: post re Leontiev & Memory

From: Carlos Koelbl (KOELBL@erz.uni-hannover.de)
Date: Tue Oct 05 2004 - 08:40:52 PDT


Thanks for your e-mail. Is there any other - longer -
translation of Leontiev's memory study in English than the
shortened version in "Problems in the development of
mind"?

Best,
Carlos

Am 30 Sep 2004 um 14:43 hat Peg Griffin geschrieben:

> Does this help? In Problems in the Development of Mind (1981) Leontiev
> covers some memory studies around p. 340 and then gets to the parallelogram
> on p 363.
> Peg Griffin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carlos Koelbl" <KOELBL@erz.uni-hannover.de>
> To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: post re Leontiev & Memory
>
>
> > Excuse me for not answering your e-mail but I was on
> > vacation and afterwards had problems with my e-mail
> > access. Actually I haven't read the van der Veer replication
> > yet but again thanks very much for the interesting hint and I
> > will tell more about it after reading it. The background for my
> > interest on the issue on Leontiev on memory is the (in my
> > view) striking historical coincidence that Bartlett's
> > Remembering and Leontiev's study were published more or
> > less at the same time and at least have in common that they
> > share both good arguments against the Ebbinghaus' way of
> > researching memory, both contribute each in his own way to
> > a cultural psychology of memory. But whereas Bartlett has
> > been - as everyone knows - widely discussed and has been
> > acknowledged the status of a "forerunner" of an ecologically
> > valid memory research (Neisser etc.) this has not at all been
> > the case in respect to Leontiev. Not even the "usual
> > suspects" give him this credit, not even when they write
> > (very good books) about "Collective memory" as James
> > Wertsch. This surprises me. I wanted to know if one
> > possible explanation is that the whole monograph is not yet
> > available in English. On the other hand for many of the
> > "usual suspects" this is certainly not a barrier since they
> > understand Russian. So why is this so? Is Leontiev's
> > reputation maybe not so high as that of Vygotsky and Luria
> > in the U.S.? Has the study just been "overlooked" (is that
> > correct English - I hope so)? Or are there lenghty
> > discussions of Leontievs study I myself have overlooked up
> > to now?
> >
> > Best,
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 2 Sep 2004 um 7:40 hat Mike Cole geschrieben:
> >
> > > Tell us what you make of the issue of leontiev on memory, Carlos. I do
> not
> > > think the van der veer replication is well known and a description is
> likely
> > > to be of interest to mca folks.
> > > mike
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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