RE: help please/rising to the concrete

From: Mike Cole (mcole@weber.ucsd.edu)
Date: Wed Jul 09 2003 - 08:11:12 PDT


Well, I am not sure that the interesting excerpts from Yrjo and your
comments on Bernstein's view of what it means to talk about 'the native's
perspective' help me rise to the concrete, Harry. But they reinforce my
already strong bias for the need to be constantly putting theory and
data (which are themselves theoretically saturated) in interaction with
each other.

In the following, I take it you are referring back to the victor/jay
interchange, but I am not clear about whether this is an alternative
formulation of the issues raised there, or at statement of your own
in chat terms:

The interesting theoretical =
and empirical question is as to how something endures when individuals =
and or groups shift between activity systems and institututions or =
perhaps more complexly when activity systems change their relation to =
each other within institutions.

bb's commentary on the methodological issues being discussed here seems
a promising way to theorize, and perhaps study, our difficulties. My own
guess is that a recursive process of triangulation in which we document
as best we can what is transpiring may be the best we can hope for. The
result is a narrative, but at least one that is interwoven with the
material dynamics of life.
mike



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