Re: online seminar

From: Phil Chappell (phil_chappell@access.inet.co.th)
Date: Sat Sep 14 2002 - 03:20:15 PDT


As a very interested seminar participant (doing post-grad work in TESOL), I
second the proposal for Thought and Language and Cultural Psychology. I also
think that some of the papers in Denzin and Lincoln (2nd Ed) related to
paradigm discussions would help newcomers like myself find the place of CHAT
within the broader framework. Finally, the collection 'Mind Culture and
Activity' put out by LCHC in 1997 has, I believe, a sufficiently broad range
of papers which could be used as exemplars first, of the kinds of
applications CHAT can be used for, and second, of the true
cross-disciplinary nature of CHAT.

Phil Chappell
----- Original Message -----
From: Vera John-Steiner <vygotsky@unm.edu>
To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: online seminar

    Hi,
    That is a good reading list, I would add Vygotsky's Thought and Language
at least for those interested in literacy
-and Luria's Working Brain, and Cole's Cultural psychology,
Vera John Steiner---- Original Message -----
From: <david_eddy_spicer@harvard.edu>
To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: online seminar

>
> I have wanted a chance to try Knowledge Forum and would welcome the
> opportunity to do so in this context. I don't know Syllabase, and I wonder
> how Jim might compare the two. My hunch is that the conceptual foundations
> of KF--which make it more amenable to co-construction as opposed to the
> transfer predicates of standard courseware--mean that KF probably has a
> sharper learning curve but offers more for the time invested in mastery.
>
> I think Gordon's idea of strands is good, and I would also like to get a
> "lay of the land". My particular interest is in CHAT & workplace learning;
> it would be great to convene with others sharing that interest, maybe
> working as a special interest group within the course to come up with a
> list of readings for the larger group and serving as facilitators when the
> general group discusses that particular area. But I would also want other
> strands to do the same so I can get a broader context for current research
> and practice.
>
> Perhaps a rough structure something like this might work, based on 14
weeks
> (October through January, with ample time off for holidays): 6 weeks on
> seminal texts; 4 weeks within smaller, "strand" groups; 4 weeks devoted to
> the general group exploring one strand a week.
>
> I realize this kind of discussion will soon bore the pants off those on
> xmca not interested in taking part, so we should think about when to make
> the move to a new venue. BUT, before this trundles away, it would be great
> to get some thoughts about "seminal texts" in particular, and how to cover
> these bearing in mind the concern Mike raised about overload.
>
> So, what would those on this list put down as representative foundational
> works that a seminar like this should cover and could cover in a handful
of
> weeks?
>
> Yrjo's group has a brief overview online:
> http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/6.htm
>
> Are these the works you would include as stepping stones?
>
> David
>
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> David Eddy Spicer
> Doctoral candidate
> Learning and Teaching
> Harvard Graduate School of Education
> http://gseacademic.harvard.edu/~eddyspda/
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> gwells who-is-at cats.ucsc
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> cc:
> 09/12/02 11:58 Subject: RE: online seminar
> PM
> Please respond
> to xmca
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> I'm wondering whether we might not have takers for this
> seminar/course who have rather different long-term interests. For
> example, there may be some who are interested in bringing CHAT to
> bear on work situations, others interested in out-of-school or
> museum-type activities, and others interested in K-12 school
> settings, etc. Would it be a good idea to see the seminar as having
> two strands: one general and concerned with the seminal texts, and
> the other with specific applications? If so, perhaps different people
> might take responsibility for the different strands.
>
> As far as a discussion forum is concerned, I should like to recommend
> the Knowledger Forum. I have been using it for a number of years in
> both face-to-face classes and in distance mode. In both, I have
> found it very satisfactory. It can be used at two levels: 1) it
> simply provides a forum for threaded discourse, organized according
> to specific topics ("views"); 2) it provides means for "rising above"
> the post-by-post discussion to explore themes within the discussion
> and to carry out a variety of analyses - by participants as well as
> by the teachers - of issues that have proved of sustained or
> profound interest. If you are interested, you can see how it has
> served my student cohort in the introductory course for prospective
> teachers (at the first level only, so far) by logging in at
> http://knowledgeforum.ucsc.edu:27320/ First selct EDUC250_FALL02 as
> the database and then log in with Username: visitor and Password:
> guest
>
> If this is of interest, I could relatively easily create a new
> database for the envisaged seminar/course.
>
> Gordon
> --
> Gordon Wells
> UC Santa Cruz.
> gwells@cats.ucsc.edu http://people.ucsc.edu/~gwells/
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