Re: reality of math objects

From: Dewey Dykstra, Jr. (dykstrad@email.boisestate.edu)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 18:34:02 PDT


>
>Dewey,
>
>Your suggested article beginnings reminds me of my thoughts in
>reading Herbst's Co-Genetic logic. Have you heard of it? His idea
>is that in a triad there is "p", "not p", and "p and not p" as the
>whole. Neither exist without the other; this would be the reality.
> Yet, people have the capability of abstracting this reality and so
>can think of the parts that make up the whole, even though the whole
>cannot exists as independent entitities.
>

No I have not heard of Herbst's co-genetic logic. I'm not sure where
to go with it. Are you suggesting that we simultaneously know and do
not know the nature of reality, that simultaneously realism and the
various forms of non-realism mentioned in the article apply? What
would this imply concerning the consequences of realism that I point
to?

I guess just as realists seem not to want to face the uncertainties
all I can think of with Herbst's logic is that simultaneously
everything is true. I'm not sure I even can imagine how to "go
there."

Dewey

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