On Friday, October 27, 2000 3:30 PM, Diane Hodges
[SMTP:dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu] wrote:
> hworthen@igc.org writes:
> >There is the "objective" actual world.
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> ok, i admit i've been out of this conversation for some time, too weary
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> pontificate or show off what i know, because, hey, what do i know?
> but the actual objective world always strikes me as kind of a red herring
> - sure, it's there,
> but we can't know it,
If we can't know it, how do you manage to cross the road without getting
run over?
I think when it comes down to it, all we need to do is follow Dr. Johnson,
who refuted Berkeley by kicking a stone and saying 'I refute it thus'.
All the rest is rhetoric (or there are less kind names for it...).
> i am not sure i see the value in believing in an "objective" world,
Whether you believe in it or not, you have to behave as if it exists.
Otherwise life would be impossible (and you would be lying under a double
decker bus)...
This view really gets under my skin asit is such an intellectual game that
cannot bear any relation to the way people actually live their lives.
Bruce Robinson
> because it assumes
> the "world" holds some sort of perspective, or position, that
> exceeds our (people) interactions with it - ?
> isn't objectivity a value-position?
> diane
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> diane celia hodges
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> university of british columbia, centre for the study of curriculum and
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