Diane wrote to me privately and I to her. With her permission I am
attaching copies of her note and mine.
As Jay noted in an earlier message, email can generate responses that
would not occur in face to face interaction, sometimes for the worse.
What particularly concerns me is the persistent appearances of
the notion that this is a closed discourse. Sure its not about
everything, but it is a collective investigation of a family set
of issues toward which there are many perspectives. More to come.
mike
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>From: dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu (Diane Hodges)
mike,
i understand what you are saying, and i re-read august's posts to see that
yes,
there was some quoting of Yeats and such - but there are a lot of women on
the list
who feel there is no way to enter the xmca postings with input,
and that the response from my random expression roused three silent women
to echo
my sentiments ought to indicate that
there is something missing, for many of us, and all i was suggesting is
that sometimes
the rhetoric is pretty secular.
it doesn't have to be officially conducted for it to be so, as i said,
people change and their interests move, and of late the interests seem to
be very AT oriented.
even a little dissonance now and then ought to be part of the venue, but
it isn't.
change isn't bad or good, but it can be recognized, can't it?
i am not planning on starting an ex-XMCA list, i just wondered if others
felt the way i did,
and as it turned out, some do.
since nothing will come of it, i don't see the harm in noticing and
commenting on the changes.
i am sorry if this was taken as a personal slight against you - it was
intended for the list,
not you personally.
diane
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To: dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu
Subject: Re: officialdom
I did not take it personally. I took it socially. The way to introduce
other topics and get them discussed is to introduce them and discuss
them. It would be great to see such discussions going on and see who
participates. There is a genuine interest among many xmca members
to, for example, bring feminist theory into the discussion. To do so
effectively, I am guessing, means to find some phenomenon that is
bothering folks, provide an account for how it is ordinarily theorized
and practiced, and then articulate an alternative.
There is a ton of good will going untapped, Diane. What is needed
is nurturing leadership of a kind that I manifestly cannot provide.
mike
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One way to get alternative topics on the table is through the
articles for discussion. The other is simply to raise the topic
and see if there is resonance. Keep in mind that we are
participants in a variety of only very partially overlapping
discourses, and be prepared to offer interpretive help,
as Randi and Jay and others have done re Yeats (about whcih
more when....
mike
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