I agree with you Phillip to some extent but do we need to engage with such
madness? For example, in the UK at the moment we have hysteria being whipped
up by the press about asylum seekers. From their descriptions you would
imagine that Britain is being overrun by illegal (whatever that might mean)
immigrants from Eastern Europe. We have a media discourse developing that
involves phrases such as 'scroungers', 'we are an easy touch', 'people
coming here to take our jobs', 'bogus asylum seekers' and 'influx of
aggressive beggars.' The 'reality' is that the number of people coming here
to seek asylum is small and costs less than 0.5% of the UK's annual budget.
Politicians such as William Hague, the leader of the Tory party, are jumping
on this right wing bandwagon because they see short-term electoral advantage
in it. Now, I think that the newspaper editors producing this discourse
share no common epistemological ground with me but, nonetheless, I think
there is a need to engage with the discourse that is developing however
unsuccessful such engagement might be. Does the same apply to this internet
material too?
Geoff Hayward
Lecturer in Educational Studies and SKOPE Research Fellow
University of Oxford
Department of Educational Studies
15 Norham Gardens
Oxford
OX2 6PY
Phone: 01865 274007
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip White [mailto:Phillip_White@ceo.cudenver.edu]
Sent: 05 May 2000 16:24 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Cc: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: FW: feminism is socialism
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu writes:
mary bryson wrote:
>
>
>This was in my mailbox today, and i thought....gosh....what to do? And
>then
>i thought...maybe someone on XMCA would like to answer Mr. Nunez, cuz i
>don't have the energy to.....and maybe it isn't worth answering....maybe
>it
>is just kind of interesting, like a fetish email....
>
>anyhow, this is how i started my day
>*shaking my head
hi, mary - just highlighted some of the below statements of Mr.
Nunez
- and with you shake my head - and i think any response to him would be
like attempting to shout down a hurricane - i see no coherence in his
epistemology which offers a way of working towards shared understanding of
the world - his reality is not mine.
it might be easier to do an ethnographic case study of his coherence
......
this example of discourse you forwarded certainly demonstrates how
sometimes there is no shared meaning that comes out of shared discourse.
>
>Patriarchy = Men OWN their wives.. it's called a Family Unit.. it's
>called morality
>feminism/matriarchy = everyone having sex with eachothers' women while
>still remaining 'friends' like a bunch of ANIMALS!
>feminism/matriarchy = village = socialism = tribalism = lowest form of
>civilization = NO SURPLUS = Deficit = Slavery
>Patriarchy = Family Unit = efficiency = prosperity = Individual Rights =
>OPPOSITE of socialism = Surplus = free time for great
>works/inventions..... --
>-- i.e. immigrants who come here and prosper come from
>patriarchal-family-structures because Patriarchy = Family Unit =
>EFFICIENCY
>
>feminism IS Govt. Sponsered Propaganda -- to weaken society; weaken the
>Family Unit; weaken it's men.. for more STATE CONTROL
>Multiculturalism = Everyone different(immigrants not "Americanized") =
>NO UNITY amongst society = Divide & Conquer/LESS RESISTANCE = more STATE
>CONTROL
>homosexuality + abortion = population control
but, it is certainly clear that he is struggling to make sense of
his
universe.
phillip white
third grade teacher
doctoral student
scrambling a dissertation
denver, colorado
phillip_white@ceo.cudenver.edu
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