>lchc can not ever claim itself to be "inclusive" - a straw state anyhow - as
>it is a discourse community based on the recognition of only a narrow range
>of participatory forms,
Mary, can you say more about the participatory forms that you see falling in
& out of the range sponsored by xmca?
To all, I agree with Kathie and Mary, I think a week-long discussion of our
practice/ our processes would be useful.
Judy
>
>
>kathie asks:
>is there some way we,
>> as the hodge podge, patchwork community we are,
>> can negotiate some
>> self-organizing practices that will be more inclusive and supportive
>> of all
>> who we are?
>
>this seems like really good work to do together, so why don't we dedicate a
>week to talking only about this question. a sort of communal self-study.
>
>thanks kathie -
>
>mary (who thinks it is just fine to be interpellated as perverse, btw,
>contra phil's comment about lurkers)
>
>
>--
>Dr. Mary Bryson, Associate Professor, Education, UBC
>GenTech Project http://www.shecan.com
>Curriculum Vitae http://www.educ.ubc.ca/faculty/bryson/cv.html
>
>To alter efficacy-based futility requires development of competencies and
>expectations of personal effectiveness. By contrast, to change
>outcome-based futility necessitates changes in prevailing environmental
>contingencies that restore the instrumental value of the competencies
>people already possess. Bandura-- 1977
>
>
>----------
>>From: Katherine_Goff@ceo.cudenver.edu (Katherine Goff)
>>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>Subject: Re: Kathie hearing voices
>>Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2000, 4:27 PM
>>
>
>> mike writes:
>>>Very helpful way of thinking about things.
>>
>>
>> well, i'm not sure how helpful it is when the people who agree mostly nod
>> and the people i most fervently wish would listen to what i am saying
>> shout their reasonable criticism of my discourse as if it were my grammar
>> or my wardrobe.
>> so, nothing has changed, except some people have unsubscribed.
>> and being a systems practitioner as well as a systems theorist,
>> i accept my responsibility for my support of the current status of this
>> system
>> i think of as xmca.
>>
>> mea culpa. no one is innocent.
>>
>> but, the normalizing practices, the discomfort and potential for
>> humiliation are obstacles that i find intimidating,
>> my uneasiness about continuing this topic,
>> is a red flag to tell me that it's important not to silence myself,
>> but it's not much help in giving me a direction or guidance in what words
>> to use.
>>
>> despite all the reasons i should drop this,
>> i feel i must refuse to fade off into lurker-dom, or to unsubscribe
>> without giving voice to the unreasonable demands of my feelings,
>> my desire for the xmca that i remember
>> (and maybe never existed outside of my mind.)
>>
>> it was a uniquely multi-vocal space that en/couraged and supported a
>> diversity of discourse, grammar, and appearance.
>>
>> i am speaking of the change in stance from acceptance and inclusiveness
>> to what feels like the current movement towards
>> taking up and maintaining a single, rigid position
>> that excludes many.
>> staking out positions and territory and insisting that this is the way it
>> should be.
>>
>> the way xmca is, is the way we make it.
>>
>> i don't believe in shoulds.
>> so, what i think i am asking this community is
>> do we/you want
>> to invite those who have been pushed to the periphery,
>> those who feel shut out,
>> unsupported,
>> silenced (and i don't mean that everyone who reads without posting has
>> been too intimidated to speak, but i know that some have) ----
>>
>> is there some way we,
>> as the hodge podge, patchwork community we are,
>> can negotiate some
>> self-organizing practices that will be more inclusive and supportive
>> of all
>> who we are?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> kathie
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> .........Our words misunderstand us..............................
>> .....We are our words, and black and bruised and blue.
>> Under our skins, we're laughing....................................
>> .........................Adrienne Rich..................................
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Katherine_Goff@ceo.cudenver.edu
>> http://ceo.cudenver.edu/~katherine_goff/index.html
>>
>
>
Judith Diamondstone (732) 932-7496 Ext. 352
Graduate School of Education
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
10 Seminary Place
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1183
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