Re: Vygotsky, conflict, dialectic, growth

stephanie spina (sspina who-is-at email.gc.cuny.edu)
Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:04:02 -0400 (EDT)

Ricardo -
Please don't apologize for your English. It is much better than some of my
attempts to communicate in another language.
Do you think the ZPD has to be between people? Can something else (like
music, for example) serve as a ZPD?
And why is the focus always on "positive" development? Doesn't a ZPD also
hold the potential for a negative transformation?
Stephanie

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu wrote:

> Mrs. Spina,
>
> I read your comments about Vygotsky's ZPD and I apreciate it
> specialy because you show a "reading road" (?) that does not
> reduce it to a technical tool of mesurement of development.
>
> I understand it, at least util now, as a social zone of potential
> development that is present in every interaction between people. In
> school education, as a "space" in which teachers and professsors can be
> "helped" by students-childreen to grow in cultural development too.
>
> My english is pretty bad and I feel a lot of limitations on
> comming out my thoughts. I hope you can understand me.
>
> tephanie spina wrote:
> >
> > I would like to explore some of the relationships between Vygotskiian
> > theory and critical pedagogy in general, and specifically as they relate
> > to the issues of conservatism, multiculturalism, and the host of other
> > issues raised in the stories recently posted.
> > My interpretation of Vygotsky may not be "mainstream" on this list - but
> > I'd like to engage in a dialogue (not a polarizing debate) around some of
> > these ideas (on or off list) with anyone interested. Perhaps conflict
> > may be an appropriate starting point.
> > Conflict, to Vygotsky, was critical to growth. For example,I do not see
> > the ZPD as just a technique to systematically lead children from one level
> > of skill to another. The ZPD is not a "place" or a "thing." It is not a
> > technique for learning/teaching. It is a reorganization through conflict
> > to create new meaning. The ZPD works by creating a tension between
> > present and future capabilities; the intersection of external needs and
> > internal possibilities. The dialectical character of the process has been
> > frequently neutralized in the West where its conflictual aspects, so
> > critical to Vygotsky's conceptualization, are glossed over, leaving no
> > room for concepts like agency and resistance, which are central to
> > critical pedagogy. Western views seem to have shifted Vygotsky's notion by
> > an emphasis on the interaction between a child and adult through the
> > process of negotiating meaning, assuming reciprocity and positive,
> > cooperative interaction.
> > Vygotsky's strength is his unique integration of (historical) psychology,
> > Marxist philosophy, and social semiotic analysis to create a theory based
> > on, in, and of culture. Critical pedagogy shares these roots and exploring
> > this may provide insights relevant to both.
> > Your thoughts?
> >
> > Stephanie
> >
> > Stephanie Urso Spina
> > City University of New York
> > sspina who-is-at email.gc.cuny.edu
>
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