[Xmca-l] Re: Saussure vs Peirce

[Andy Blunden]

I would  have appreciated a definition of some kind of what 
the writer actually means by "utterance." In absence of that 
"the word, as a compressed version of the utterance" is 
nonsense, or at least a step backwards because it 
obliterates a concept. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind saying 
that the two are together the micro- and macro-units of 
dialogue (or something having that meaning). The same as 
Leontyev has two units of activity: action and activity, and 
Marx has two units of political economy: commodity and 
capital. To theorise a complex process you always need two 
units.

The rest of what you have cited reminds me of what 
Constantin Stanislavskii said about the units of an actor's 
performance:

https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/stanislavskii.pdf

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/index.htm
On 16/03/2019 5:42 pm, Arturo Escandon wrote:
> Thanks for that conceptual jewel, mate.
>
> Let me bring here Akhutina to further show their 
> complementariness:
>
> The minimal holistic unit of conversation is the 
> utterance. An utterance, unlike a sentence, is complete in 
> itself. The utterance always carries within it the marks 
> and features of who is speaking to whom, for what reason 
> and in what situation; it is polyphonic. An utterance 
> develops from a motivation, “a volitional objective” and 
> progresses through inner speech to external speech. The 
> prime mover of the semantic progression (from the inner 
> word that is comprehensible to me alone to the external 
> speech that he, the listener, will understand) is the 
> comparison of my subjective, evanescent sense, which I 
> attribute to the given word, and its objective (constant 
> for both me and my listener) meaning.Thus, the major 
> building material for speech production is the living 
> two-voice word. But polyphony is a feature of the 
> utterance as expressed in the word; the word carrying 
> personal sense is an abbreviation of the utterance. Thus, 
> the utterance and the word, as a compressed version of the 
> utterance, are the units of speech acts, communication, 
> and consciousness.
>
> Best
>
> Arturo
>
>
> -- 
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