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And lots of people marvel at the progress, Helena. bait and switch.... and pay taxes like Apple! :-) mike On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Helena Worthen <helenaworthen@gmail.com>wrote: > Hello -- the letter from Meister is really worth reading. It explains why > MOOCs need the CSU system (and other public higher education connections) > more than CSU needs MOOCs. > > Although short-term, the linkup with Coursera to offer MOOCs in various > disciplines appears to solve the immediate problem of how to expand access > to already crowded, booked-up, high-tuition face to face classrooms, it > solves a different problem for Coursera and other big MOOC companies. > > That problem is, long-term ‹ and this is an important problem, since > Coursera, like the other MOOC companies, is a private company, like > Facebook, LinkedIn, Yahoo, Amazon, etc. -- how to make money. Right now > MOOCs are free, or at least some are free. How can they figure out how > much to charge? How much are they "worth" --? > > The simplest way to figure that out would be to hook up with a state > university and say, "Our class is worth three credits at San Jose State, > and tuition at San Jose State for three credits is $2,400, so our class > should cost $2,400." But it can get much, much more fine-grained than > that, since all kinds of personal information gets collected when someone > enrolls in a class. > > Bottom line- without the hookup to established institutions, all the MOOCs > offer is celebrity teachers doing what are essentially TV shows or > audiotape classes (you may have noticed that the price on Great > Teacher-type audio tapes have crashed from $299 to less than $100 > recently). So no matter how celebrated a professor is, it's the hookup to > an institution that makes it possible to establish market value. And make > huge money in the long run. > > Which is basically gutting the public education system and transferring > its authority to exchange credits for tuition to a private company. > > Another argument for free public higher education -- the only way that > public education can compete against a for-profit system. > > > Helena > > > > On 5/11/13 1:30 PM, "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote: > > >The following letter from the UC faculty association president seems worth > >distributing. Fraught futures. > >mike > > > > > > > >CUCFA President Meister's Open Letter to Coursera Founder Daphne Koller > > http://cucfa.org/news/2013_may10.php > > > >...... > > > >http://cucfa.org/news/2013_may10.ph<http://cucfa.org/news/2013_may10.php> > >__________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________ _____ xmca mailing list xmca@weber.ucsd.edu http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca