[xmca] Re: Polls are closed: Manfred Holodynsk's article is choice

[mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>]

Hi Andy - and here I was wondering why operation/action/activity were not
prominent in Manfred's article. Where does he lay out the views in this
note? Am I reading too superficially as usual? Seems important for me to
get clear about!
Mike

On Thursday, March 21, 2013, Andy Blunden wrote:

> Think of your illustration,Martin, about whether, in opening the window,
> you were acting as a technician or moral leader. I.e., the meaning of the
> action lies in the activity of which it is a part, which is not immediately
> given. Manfred does not refer this to "intention" or "belief". Manfred is
> quite specific that the signalising and self-perception of an action in
> relation to an activity - i.e., an action's being of this and not that
> activity - is a function played by emotion. Concepts like internal state
> and intention are derivative from operation/action/activity, not
> fundamental.
>
> Andy
>
> Martin Packer wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Yes, I'm not clear how exactly Manfred is proposing that emotions
>> regulate an activity system. I can see that they can regulate an activity
>> in the everyday sense.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 2:45 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> My reading is very similar to yours, Martin. I wonder though, in both
>>> your
>>> quotation from Manfred and elsewhere in the article about how
>>> consistently
>>> the word, activity, is used. In your quoted example, is activity the word
>>> of choice, or action? This question relates to Andy's earlier invocation
>>> of
>>> operation/action/ activity.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Martin Packer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Perhaps it's helpful to add that emotions are classic System X
>>>> processes,
>>>> especially at the start of ontogenesis. As Holodynski says, "emotions
>>>> have
>>>> an activity regulating function." What he then offers, on my reading,
>>>> is a
>>>> detailed account of how over the course of ontogenesis System C comes to
>>>> play a role in emotionality. Key to this at the start of ontogenesis is
>>>> that the dependence of an infant on adult caregivers means that the link
>>>> between need and satisfaction must pass through the adult. The adults'
>>>> interpretations of the infant's emotion signals thus mediate the
>>>> outcome.
>>>> This provides the (social) condition for (individual) development.
>>>>
>>>> At the other end of the ontogenetic trajectory - well, we had a
>>>> discussion
>>>> recently about LSV's analysis of the way a cultural artifact -- a play.
>>>> for
>>>> example - can educate the emotions.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
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