RE: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner

[Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>]

Mike et al., in looking at this paper in Mind and Social Practice, I think that she's addressing, if only implicitly, the kinds of problems that Luria created in subjecting Muslim rural peasants to Western sorting tasks. She references Joe Glick, who appears to have been part of the Vai study with Scribner and Cole, who changed the task, rather than assumed that a poor performance on the task indicated backwardness (Luria's conclusion in Uzbekistan). I think it also anticipates a lot of the argument in The Construction Zone, where changing the task, rather than assuming incompetence of the test-taker, was the solution to learning difficulties.

That's quite a brief reduction, but am I in the hunt? p

From: mike cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:14 PM
To: Peter Smagorinsky
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Subject: Re: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner

Thanks Peter. It is really an article worth discussion here on xmca.
I have begun to ask that other articles that have flown be up there.
I see that even the article for discussion this issue is there. Hmm.

Anyway, url is http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Paper/index.html for papers for
discussion. There are some classics there when you look back.

I am wondering what people thought about the mixing of Activity
Theory and Critical Realism in the article on doing intervention research
on african farming. Its not often that you see that kind of cross-cultural
application of the use of AT.

mike

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu<mailto:smago@uga.edu>> wrote:
Mike, it's also chapter 10 of Mind and Social Practice: Selected writings of SS, if your copy is at home.

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Subject: [xmca] "Locating the experiment" - Scribner
A request for help

Does anyone have a copy of Scribner's 1975 article on locating the experiment in pdf form. The libraries are all closed up tight and I an hoping to read it before next year!

send to lchcmike at g mail dot com

thnx
mike
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