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[xmca] Re: A Failure of Communication
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> You seem to be an inveterate lurker, Robert. It would be good to hear your
> voice somewhat more frequently in the discussions on xmca.
>
> Andy
>
> Hi Andy,
I will try to honor your requests. I am presently finishing 3 book projects
for which I been a co-editor and contributor and teaching a full load :-).
Btw, speaking of connections between Dewey and Hegel, has anyone had a
look at the book that is reviewed here in this link?
http://lnx.journalofpragmatism.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/shook-good-deweys-philosophy-of-spirit.pdf
Robert Lake
Robert
> Robert Lake wrote:
>
>> Hi and thanks for asking
>> RL
>>
>> For Dewey, *Mind is primarily a verb *(Dewey, 1934, p. 274).
>>
>> Dewey, J. (1934). *Art as experience*. New York: Capricorn.
>>
>>
>> Of course this notion comes straight out of Hegel who wrote that "mind is
>> only what it does, and its act is to make itself the object of its
>> own consciousness" .*Philosophy of Right*,
>> §<http://www.marxists.org/**reference/archive/hegel/works/**
>> pr/prstate.htm#PR343<http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pr/prstate.htm#PR343>
>> >
>> 343, 216.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM, vwilk <vwilk@inf.shizuoka.ac.jp> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> If the Ur-Act, the basic, elementary act of human (intellectual) life
>>> relevant to concepts.
>>>
>>> For all the stars of present-day continental philosophy is:
>>> pidgeon-holing.
>>> and the concrete answer given by Hegel, Vygotsky, Activity Theory, Thomas
>>> Kuhn
>>> and Andy is: problem-solving.
>>>
>>> What is the concrete path of development that goes through Dewey?
>>>
>>>
>>> (2012/11/14 10:05), Robert Lake wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> And don't forget Dewey :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Larry, picking up on a theme introduced by Mike earlier - we have to
>>>> ask:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> what is the Ur-Act, the basic, elementary act of human (intellectual)
>>>>> life?
>>>>> I know of only two answers to this question, relevant to concepts.
>>>>>
>>>>> The abstract answer given by mediavel logic, Linnaeus, the "psychology
>>>>> of
>>>>> concepts," all the stars of present-day continental philosophy is:
>>>>>
>>>>> pidgeon-holing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The concrete answer given by Hegel, Vygotsky, Activity Theory, Thomas
>>>>> Kuhn
>>>>> and me is:
>>>>>
>>>>> problem-solving.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what creates a line of development, Larry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
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>>>>> >
>>>>> Larry Purss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> your comment:
>>>>>> "Ideal typical path of development" *points to* distinct settings
>>>>>> (e.g.
>>>>>> natural science, everyday life at home, school, etc.) which is indeed
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> to the idea of "genre," but "ideal typical path of development" is
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> all about *paths of development*, ideal ones at that, not settings,
>>>>>> projects, theories, domains, social groups, frames, or anything else.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> Andy, if the focus remains on *typical paths of development* OF
>>>>>> genres,
>>>>>> OF distinct settings OF the existential life world, is it possible to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a conversation within the multi-verse of *romantic science*
>>>>>> As I understand the focus on *typical* is *scientific* the paths of
>>>>>> development may be romantic and implicate effective history.
>>>>>> I am circling around your invitation to have conversations that are
>>>>>> interdiciplinary. Simon Critchley, exploring the development of
>>>>>> Continental
>>>>>> Philosophy wrote about Heidegger's idea of
>>>>>> *an existential CONCEPTION of science* Critchley commented,
>>>>>> "This would show how the practices of the natural sciences arise out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> life-world practices, and that the life-world practices are not simply
>>>>>> reducible to natural scientific explanation"
>>>>>> Andy, your specific project to develop awareness of the *typical
>>>>>> paths*
>>>>>> of develop of concept use and transformation through time is emerging
>>>>>> within a particular tradition or genre of discourse [within effective
>>>>>> history]. I am playfully inquiring if it may be possible to *play*
>>>>>> [a
>>>>>> word you would not use but points to a hermeneutical genre] on a
>>>>>> larger
>>>>>> *field of play* that *hears* and acknowledges your voice.
>>>>>> I will bring the discussion back to the paper under discussion and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fuzzy boundaries between spontaneous and scientific [systematically
>>>>>> 'true'
>>>>>> organized] concepts. Andy the path of development FROM spontaneous TO
>>>>>> scientific concepts seems to have deen articulated within a genre.
>>>>>> However,
>>>>>> this is not a dis-interested scientific development. Mike pointed to
>>>>>> developmental praxis as centrally concerning *social goods, including
>>>>>> moral
>>>>>> goods*.
>>>>>> Within our developing understanding of ideal paths of concept
>>>>>> formation
>>>>>> how is this emerging understanding circling back to exploring how our
>>>>>> *hearing* gives *voice* to the other*?
>>>>>> {Which I suggest is one way to view the development of psychology as a
>>>>>> project within a shared moral compass}
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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