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Re: [xmca] Evaluation of learning - On Ann Brown's and Lucia French's generous paper
- To: laure.kloetzer@gmail.com, "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
- Subject: Re: [xmca] Evaluation of learning - On Ann Brown's and Lucia French's generous paper
- From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:10:53 -0700
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Hi Laure-
Glad that ref was useful, and the pointer toward everyday was certainly in
the spirit of the times.
AND, its a big deal now among a lot of people such as Phillip Bell and his
colleagues at the LIFE
center at the U of Washington. We here at LCHC are also considering the
problems of cross-setting/context/situation/activity analysis, so keep us
posted!
For an early approach to these sorts of issues, you might check out:
http://lchc.ucsd.edu/People/MCole/Ecological-Niche.PDF
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Laure Kloetzer <laure.kloetzer@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I read with great interest yesterday Ann Brown's (Brown and French
> 1979) early paper, attached by Mike, and I was struck by a point which
> is beyond the scope of my initial question, her call to study everyday
> cognition:
> "If we are to predict, diagnose and maximise the learning potential
> and life success of midly retarded persons (...) we'll need to refine
> and extend the diagnostic procedures we use to estimate academic
> intelligence so that we may alleviate school problems for as many as
> possible. In addition, we must also consider the "end point" of
> cognitive development for those not academically inclined. We need to
> know what the minimum cognitive competencies demanded by everyday life
> are, so that we can predict who will fail, diagnose the source of
> failure, and attempt to prepare the less able child to meet the
> demands of everyday life more adequately".
>
> Last July I tried to promote the interest of studying everyday,
> mundane cognition at ICT (International Conference on Thinking) and
> had almost zero success: no response rate at all. My arguments were
> that both from a practical and from a theoretical point of view,
> studying how for example conditionals were used in real life
> conditions would bring lots of insights. Cognitive researchers
> listened to me politely (or left the speaking hall). My lab director
> had told me before : "are you sure you want to go there ????" and I
> said "yes, thinking is something to important to be left to cognitive
> psychologists only". I still believe it is important to move forward
> on studying everyday cognition, which has been done a lot for the
> thinking of expert practitioners for example or professional
> reasoning, but not in a systematic, integrated research program, to my
> current knowledge. Or has it ?
>
> Well, just to share how Ann Brown's comments softened my isolation
> feeling from last summer...
>
> Cheers,
> LK
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