Re: [xmca] Victor Wooten: Music as a Language

[Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>]

Joseph,
music can't be the only way that we "know" what words mean - otherwise this
email would be completely incomprehensible and Chomsky would have been out
of a job long ago!

But you do point to a very important aspect of language that linguistic
anthropologists refer to as "indexicality", and which most Enlightenment
thinkers (following Kant, e.g., Chomsky) see as largely irrelevant to the
meaning of language (what we might say is the polar opposite of your
position, Joseph). So you present an important corrective. We should be
cautious, though, how far in the other direction we let the pendulum
swing...

sometimes behave so strangely
sometimes behave so strangely
sometimes behave so strangely
[I can still hear the music...]

-greg


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Joseph Gilbert <joeg4us@roadrunner.com>wrote:

> The sound aspect of words is perceived as we perceive music. That is how
> we "know" what it means. Music is the universal language. The sounds of our
> words is the universal language. We are moved, literally, by the sounds of
> our voices. The sounds of all our vowels and consonants relate to emotions.
> Our world-view, shared by others within our language group, is established
> by our experience of this emotional affect of our spoken words coupled with
> their referential function. When we verbalize, we feel the sounds while
> thinking of the things. Therefore we associate the feelings of the sounds
> of our words with the things to which we refer with them. Of course, the
> feelings are associated with the sounds of the words, not directly with the
> things. If we did not associate the sounds with the things, we would not
> have a clue as to the meaning of our world. This misassociation creates our
> only consensus information as to the meaning of our world. We ORDer our
> world with our wORD.
>
>                 Joseph Gilbert
>
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>
> > and I just remembered where I first heard this - on Radio Lab. Here is
> the
> > show, listen while you work...
> >
> > http://www.radiolab.org/2007/sep/24/behaves-so-strangely/
> >
> > -greg
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Greg Thompson <
> greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the psychologist's version of speech to song:
> >> http://philomel.com/asa156th/mp3/Sound_Demo_1.mp3
> >>
> >> for more, check out:
> >> http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=212
> >>
> >> Be sure to listen through all of the demos (the first one is the longest
> >> one), and listen to them in order.
> >>
> >> Enjoy...
> >>
> >> EVERYBODY SING:
> >>
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >> sometimes behave so strangely
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Futhermore, language as music --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFZsm-dnBs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>>
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Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition
Department of Communication
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