RE: [xmca] scribner notes

[Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>]

Just what's collected in Sylvia Scribner's Mind and Practice: Selected Writings of Sylvia Scribner

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Peter,

Which articles are you reading? I recently was able to get hold of three of Silvia's earlier publications; book chapters. I don't have the Selected Writings to hand, so I don't know if they've been reprinted:

Scribner, S. (1975). Recall of classical syllogisms: A cross-cultural investigation of error on logical problems. In R. J. Falmagne (Ed.), Reasoning: Representation and process in children and adults. Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum.

Scribner, S. (1977). Modes of thinking and ways of speaking: Culture and logic reconsidered. In P. C. Johnson-Laird & P. C. Wason (Eds.), Thinking: Readings in cognitive science (pp. 483-500). New York: Cambridge University Press.

Scribner, S. (1986). Thinking in action: Some characteristics of practical thought. In R. J. Sternberg & R. K. Wagner (Eds.), Practical intelligence: Nature and origins of competence in the everyday world (pp. 13-28). Cambridge University Press.

Martin

On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:

> Hi, sorry if I'm in your mailbox excessively today, between xmca posts and cultural-historical SIG archival recovery.
> 
> Anyhow, I mentioned earlier that I've been reading Sylvia Scribner's Mind and Practice: Selected Writings of Sylvia Scribner. I'm attaching notes I took, mainly from the latter part of the book which compiles her post-Vai research in a dairy plant in the US. These notes may be of little interest to most, but in case anyone wants to see a quote-driven summary, it's attached. Keep in mind that I took these only for myself to help me think about issues involved in a very different sort of workplace, a public school (and interestingly, SS delineates schools and workplaces as separate sorts of sites, which tells me about the state of teacher education/professional development research in the 1980s, i.e., that it wasn't much of a field).
> 
> I originally hoped that the volume would help me understand more about mental health issues, which was an early interest of hers and present interest of mine. But she worked mostly at a very broad policy level, trying to move mental health care more toward a state of personal dignity (also a Vygotskian emphasis in his defectological writing), and out from the lunatic asylum approach.
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> The middle section, broadly speaking, draws from the Scribner & Cole work documented in The Psychology of Literacy, with which I was familiar.
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> The final section covers her dairy factory research, which was still under way at the time of her death in 1991 (born 1925). My notes mainly cover these chapters, given that they were new to me and relevant to what I'm working on this summer.
> 
> Scribner had an interesting career, it seems, and I was barely in the field when she left us (got my Ph.D. in 1989 largely with an information processing framework, doing studies of high school writers in relation to writing instruction in English classes). My reading of cultural-historical work didn't get underway until I moved out into the field in the 1990s and my grad school blinders began to fall away. I read Psychology of Literacy in my early autodidactic education about CH research, and mainly knew of her career through her the Vai study reported therein.
> 
> She was not a prolific writer, perhaps because her career was well under way when word processing changed writing and publication, and also because she spent a lot of her time in social activism rather than at the keyboard. A lot of what's collected in this volume is conference presentations; she didn't appear to publish a lot in journals, which I've always been taught is the gold standard for social science scholarship. So she's the rare person who, with a relatively small career output, nonetheless is regarded as a major figure in her field.
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> I'd be interested in hearing from those who studied with her or were around when she was in her prime to get a better understanding of the way in which her reputation grew without her being a prolific writer. I assume that she had unusual personal presence. She also had great ideas, and appears to me to be a pioneer in seeing the workplace and everyday activity to be significant research sites and practices; psychology was still (and is still) a laboratory/clinic-based field, so it was quite a departure. She also invigorated her perspective with real-world engagement, e.g., in the field of mental health treatment, in the lives of Vai "ordinary" people, in factory workers. (I thought of Mike Rose's workplace studies as I read her workplace research.) I also learned some interesting tidbits, such as the fact that King Beach was one of her students and did his dissertation on bartenders-an interesting topic for a guy so immersed in Eastern religion, but a logical workplace topic for someone studying with Scribner.
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> In my initial reading of this volume, I thought that Scribner might be most important as a historical figure in studying everyday cognition among "just plain folks," but in the end think that she's still worth reading for what she can contribute to new inquiries. p
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