RE: [xmca] Francois Cooren

[Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>]

According to Gallaudet University (which is for deaf people), http://research.gallaudet.edu/Demographics/deaf-US.php 

There are a number of listings of deaf people of influence, e.g., 
http://www.start-american-sign-language.com/famous-deaf-people.html
http://www.op97.org/teach-learn/documents/PeopleWhoAreDeaf.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaf_people
http://www.deafpeople.com/



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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Gilbert
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:12 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren

Peter,
What percentage of any population is deaf and what influence do they exert upon the world-view of their society?

		Joseph

On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:

> I also wonder, what about deaf people?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca- 
> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Vera John-Steiner
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 5:54 PM
> To: 'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'
> Subject: RE: [xmca] Francois Cooren
>
> Hi Joseph
> I wonder whether the ultimate finality of the word--"everything is 
> relative to the word"--provides a too narrow, monistic view.
> Euclidean geometry is rich in proofs which are presented through 
> visual abstraction. These can be explained verbally but their 
> persuasive power is visual.
> This is an interesting though wandering discussion from toes to 
> Euclid.
> Vera
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca- 
> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Gilbert
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:32 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Francois Cooren
>
> Nothing communicates as profoundly as vocal sounds, - motions of the 
> human body -. Everything is named, - identified -, by sounds made by 
> our body. Our own body-emotional goings on is the currency by which 
> all else is valued. We relate to our world with our word.
> Everything is reletive to the word. The "final word" on anything IS 
> the word.
> The only handle we have on the meaning of our world is the effect on 
> us of the sounds of our words. We can prove nothing and can only feel 
> our vocal sounds for information of how we are affected by things. It 
> takes different words to communicate different information. Bear in 
> mind that words are fundamentally sounds and secondarily, referential 
> tools. When we refer to a thing, the referential tool is between 
> ourselves and the thing. We perceive and are affected by the tool - 
> the word - first and foremost and then also by the thought of the 
> referred-to thing. Subliminally, the word defines the thing:
> Consciously, the thing defines the word.
>
> 		Joseph Gilbert
>
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there know much about Francois Cooren or the Montreal 
>> School of Organizational Communication?
>>
>> As for the former, Cooren's book Action and Agency in Dialogue asks:
>> "What if human interactants were not the only ones to be considered, 
>> paraphrasing Austin (1962), as "doing things with words"? That is, 
>> what if other "things" could also be granted the status of agents in 
>> a dialogical situation?"
>>
>> As for the latter, the MSOC is characterized by wikipedia as:
>> "taking communication as the "site and surface" of organizations, 
>> meaning that the latter emerge from and are maintained by 
>> communication processes."
>>
>> Both of these seem to be very important points that, I thought, 
>> articulate well with recent XMCA conversations.
>>
>> Anyone have any insight?
>> Perhaps a recommendation?
>> -greg
>>
>> --
>> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
>> Sanford I. Berman Post-Doctoral Scholar Laboratory of Comparative 
>> Human Cognition Department of Communication University of California, 
>> San Diego http://ucsd.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
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