Re: [xmca] Mike Cole on Instrumentalist understanding of mediation

[Martin Packer <packer@duq.edu>]

Andy,

Of course the changes would be evident outside the therapy room. But "doing things with words" takes place inside the therapy room, where it is done with, well, words. If you were not arguing that words can't accomplish anything, then I've lost track of the argument.

Martin

On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:

> Oh one doesn't even have to go as far as psychotherapy, Martin. Any
> manager or supervisor is changing someone's mind with words, but in
> either case, if the purpose is to change someone else's actions, then
> the word-actions are part of an activity. Psychotherpay as an example
> just raises the possibility that someone's troubled inner state could be
> amelioriated without expecting any change whatsoever in how they lived
> their life. That's hard for me to imagine.
> Andy
> 
> Martin Packer wrote:
>> What about psychotherapy, Andy?
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> so long as we are only "doing things with words," then we indeed in the realms of idealism. You cannot, in my opinion, have "an activity" which is only words.
>>>    
>> 
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>>  
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