Re: [xmca] schools-without-computers-by-choice-and-conviction-that-they-dont-help-kids

[Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>]

On 27 October 2011 20:47, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Huw,
> Is reality really something to be "penetrated."
> -greg
>

If you wish to get from one side of a city to another, there are finite ways
of doing so using conventional transport.  If you wish to articulate that
intention in terms of a particular route, you will have to mentally
penetrate the fog of obstacles from A to B prior to an accurate
articulation.  Does 'penetrating to reality' sound better?  Hopefully the
gist is clear.

Huw


>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 27 October 2011 19:17, Linda Polin <linda.polin@pepperdine.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Oct 26, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Programming is part of a domain of articulated intentionality, of
> > > > penetrating reality.  The issue with simplified environments is the
> > > minimal
> > > > penetration.  One is limited to a scope that was designed for.  The
> > > spirit
> > > > of programming goes beyond this to a deeper appreciation of
> processes.
> > >
> > > I was trying to indicate the openness and range of the possible in
> > > Minecraft, which doesn't sacrifice the playfulness that I find lacking
> in
> > > straight up programming except for people who enjoy debugging. I do
> find
> > it
> > > hard to grok programming as uniquely "penetrating reality," though.
> Could
> > > you explain that? Perhaps I need "articulated intentionality" unpacked
> as
> > > well since I see most goal driven construction efforts, e.g., to create
> a
> > > machine in Minecraft, as articulated and intentional.
> > >
> > >
> > I can't say I recall writing 'uniquely', Linda.
> >
> > Huw
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> Department of Communication
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