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Re: [xmca] Al Andalus as a model for *{ }*
- To: Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
- Subject: Re: [xmca] Al Andalus as a model for *{ }*
- From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 15:54:48 -0700
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On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Robert Lake <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> For those of us who have only joined XCMA in the last year or two. can you
> repost the distributed, "virtual course
> syllabus" ?
> Thanks so much!
> Robert Lake
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a serendipitous footnote. I was looking for a book on my shelves and
>> came
>> across
>> Manicus a history and philosophy of the social sciences. Where had I seen
>> this before?
>>
>> xmca I thought.
>>
>> I googled Manicus on lchc and sure enough, came up with the following
>> fragment from an earlier discussion:
>>
>> An interesting tip from a colleague.
>> mike
>> -------------------
>>
>> "...a kind of historically oriented unified social science with
>> overlapping,
>> non-discrete, connected concerns."
>>
>> In: Peter T. Manicas, "A", page 214.
>>
>>
>> Spelling that out a little more vis a vis inter-tradition-mashups it comes
>> in a chapter on the americanization of social sciences and the way in
>> which
>> its founders selectively appropriated what they had learned.
>>
>>
>> "They were German.... in thinking of *Geisteswissenschaft *as a kind of
>>
>> historically oriented unified social science with overlapping,
>> non-discrete,
>> connected concerns.:
>>
>> A rhyzhome, a fungle entanglement....??
>>
>> Certainly descriptive of the situation that we find ourselves in, although
>> I
>> believe we are witnessing a variety of reinventions of the humane sciences
>> of the 19th century.
>>
>> mike
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 12:39 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Both Larry and Christine.
>> >
>> > I have continued thinking about ways to make clearer affinities across
>> > traditions/
>> > discourse communities. I have thought of two ideas with respect to the
>> > recent interchanges.
>> >
>> > 1. Do you think that it is possible to write up a journal-length paper
>> that
>> > summarizes
>> > your takes on the synergisms among traditions that you see? Quite apart
>> > from
>> > interest in MCA, this sort of topic should fit with the new Valsiner
>> > journal on integrative psychological and behavioral sciences. Two
>> potential
>> > places to get it out.
>> >
>> > and/or
>> >
>> > 2. Might it be possible to put together a "distributed, virtual course
>> > syllabus" of the sort that we did a few years ago on Vygotsky & Co. on
>> xmca?
>> >
>> > Either could be very helpful.
>> >
>> > And while you are at it, what does it take to get serious discussion
>> going
>> > with the
>> > social representation folks out there in xmca-land? (I am reminded
>> because
>> > I am
>> > using some materials by Sandra Jovchelovich in my current grad seminar)?
>> >
>> > Thanks for passing along Rene's intro, Larry. The integration of art
>> into
>> > our conversations in recent years, along with performance and play,
>> > certainly are
>> > important and Rene's thoughts are always interesting to read.
>> >
>> > mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, christine schweighart <
>> > schweighartgate@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Dear Mike,
>> >> I am just encountering Borgerson's 'witnessing' and 'irreplacibility
>> etc -
>> >> and I am finding that F. Gonzalez Rey's Chapter helps untangle some
>> sticking
>> >> points sympathetic to Borgerson who does still use 'inter-subjective'
>> and
>> >> some key terms in a way that coud be brought out differently.
>> >>
>> >> And yes - fungal mycelium - as Alan has researched them- is much more
>> >> relational than a previous rhizome metaphor. Alan brings out a
>> different
>> >> ontology, and not only metaphoric contrasts in his work, he does
>> extend
>> >> implications from his empirical scientific and uses metaphor to convey
>> his
>> >> thinking in his work and art too.
>> >> Yes Ingold already thought so - thanks for that observation. Curiously
>> he
>> >> is aware of Alan's work too.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=S3GakE5OT-kC&lpg=PA426&ots=ViCvqWkJ5A&dq=ingold%20rhizome&pg=PA426#v=onepage&q=ingold%20rhizome&f=false
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Christine.
>> >>
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