Re: [xmca] crisis at age 17

[ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org]

With regard to its form, the logical has three sides: (a) the side of 
abstraction or of the understanding, (ß) the dialectical or negatively 
rational side, [and] (?) the speculative or positively rational one. (EL § 
79) 

I pulled this off of this website:  
http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/paulhegel.htm

I dare say that this is the 17 year old's crisis and consequently becomes 
an individual's synthesis of life, meaning and all that.  As Bob Dylan 
wrote, "I was so much older than, I'm younger than that now."  At 17 a 
person has been provided the world's potential without any consequences 
(for the most part, of course there are exceptions) and has yet to embark 
upon their practical life.  Consider the soldier as poet, the scientist as 
mechanic, the engineer as lumberjack and perhaps this is a bit of insight 
into the 17 year old's crisis.

comparing apples to oranges?

eric



From:   Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
To:     David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>
Cc:     Culture ActivityeXtended Mind <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date:   05/19/2011 01:10 AM
Subject:        Re: [xmca] crisis at age 17
Sent by:        xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu



Mmm, I think that is c. p. 154 LSV CW v. 5.
I'm getting to that shortly,
thanks David

Andy

David Kellogg wrote:
> Andy:
> 
> I think if you look at "Imagination and Creativity in the Child", 
> where Vygotsky comments on the work of Ribot, you will find something 
> apposite.
> 
>
> Vygotsky, L.S. (2004). Imagination and Creativity in Childhood/. 
> Journal of Russian and East European Psychology. /42 (1) 7-97.
>
> 
> Ribot, who wrote that if man truly honored its great originators, 
> there would a statue of a child in every Hotel de Ville in France, 
> believes that at roughly age seventeen, every youth sacrifies 
> imagination to realism, and this is the condition for entry into the 
> work force.
> 
> Vygotsky strongly contests this idea, both because he sees no 
> contradiction between imagination and productive labor and because he 
> believes that it is both preferable and more possible for art to 
> saturate life than vice versa.
> 
> David Kellogg
> Seoul National University of Education
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/18/11, Andy Blunden /<ablunden@mira.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
>     Subject: [xmca] crisis at age 17
>     To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>     Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 5:46 AM
>
>     On page 196 of vol. 5 of LSCV's CW, Vygotsky refers to a crisis at
>     age 17. I don't know of anything more he said about this crisis.
>     Can anyone help me?
>
>     Andy
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