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RE: [xmca] nonverbal representations
Thank you. This is very helpful. This seems to me, more consistent with
other ideas in this same chapter.
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From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Bella Kotik-Friedgut
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:55 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] nonverbal representations
Monica
May be it will be helpful if I will try to correct the translation
In Kozulin's translation of Thought and Language (1986): "We are therefore
> forced to conclude that the fusion of though and speech, in adults as well
> as in children, is a phenomenon WHICH IS APPLICABLE AND MEANINGFUL ONLY
IN
> RELATION TO VERBAL THINKING, WHILE OTHER ASPECTS OF Nonverbal
> thought and nonintellectual speech are
> affected only indirectly by the processes of THIS FUSION AND THERE IS NO
> ANY CAUSAL RELATION (p. 89).
>
> Does anyone have another interpretation here? This is in Chapter 4 in The
> Genetic Roots of Thought and Speech at the end of part III.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of Martin Packer
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:26 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
>
> What's your project, Monica?
>
> Martin
>
> On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Monica Hansen wrote:
>
> > Thank you so much! Definitely useful for my current project-a small part
> of
> > my dissertation, which is turning out to be a lot about semiotics, who
> knew?
> > I thought it was just about words and meaning.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
> On
> > Behalf Of Martin Packer
> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:22 PM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: Re: [xmca] sense and sensibility
> >
> > This from Morris' dissertation: Symbolism and reality: a study in the
> nature
> > of mind.
> >
> > "The essay will aim to show that thought and mind are not entities, nor
> even
> > processes involving a psychical substance distinguishable from the rest
> of
> > reality, but are explicable as the functioning of parts of the
experience
> of
> > an organism as symbols to that organism of other parts of experience.
> Being
> > then the symbolic portion *of* experience, the psychical or mental can
> > neither be sharply opposed to the rest of experience, nor identified
with
> > the whole of experience. And since experience will be shown to be a
> portion
> > of reality, it follows that mind and reality can never be utterly
> separated
> > nor indiscriminately identified" (3-4)
> >
> > On Apr 28, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
> >
> >> Monica,
> >>
> >> Charles W. Morris (May 23, 1901, Denver, Colorado - January 15, 1979,
> > Gainesville, Florida) was an American semiotician and philosopher.
George
> > Herbert Mead directed his doctoral dissertation on a symbolic theory of
> > mind, completed in 1925. His students included semiotician Thomas A.
> Sebeok.
> > For some years I've had his "Six Theories of Mind" (1932) on the shelf,
> and
> > recently found time to read it. (It's available on the web.)
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >
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