Re: [xmca] Narration and Stance

[Martin Packer <packer@duq.edu>]

David, Larry et al.

A week or so ago I copied this from chapter 2 of T&S, thinking it would be helpful when my class gets to the chapters on concept formation, and also when that topic comes up again here. The context is the discussion of early Piaget's early views of fantasy and realistic thinking in the young child. It seems relevant already! LSV writes of "the zigzag development of thinking and of fantasy" and then proposes that:

"in any generalization there coexists, on the one hand, a flying away from life, and on the other, a deeper and more accurate reflection of this life itself, [so...] that there is a certain piece of fantasy in any general concept."

This certainly blocks any line of thinking that would see a scientific concept as simply an "accurate reflection" of a phenomenon. It also shows that LSV did not think of development as a matter of freeing oneself from fantasy.

Martin


On Feb 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, David Kellogg wrote:

> lp: If we are all far far more than we seem [and our beliefs and fantasies keep
> us imprisoned or contained or SUBJECTED] how do we go about freeing
> ourselves from our illusions?"
> 
> dk: I think that prisons are what keep people imprisoned, not illusions. Illusions are, or can be, one of the most important means we have of getting people out of prisons, but only when they contribute to actions. When you are actually in prison, you really need illusions of various kinds just to get through the day. Not that different from being out of prison when you think about it. Not all of these illusions are related to imminent action.

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