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Re: [xmca] return of culture of poverty
Hi Julian,
I don't think anything I said necessarily means that I don't believe culture
in the sense (one of many) of modes of behaviour, everyday life and values
plays a role in the formation and perpetuation of society. However I don't
agree that culture is the reason poverty exists or why many people are stuck
in it - and that therefore they need the paternalist tough love (combined
with the threat of starvation) to get them out of it through a form of
behaviour modification therapy. I'm reminded about what a friend in South
Wales told me about the speed of proliferation of drug dealing and use on
estates in the valleys following the closure of the mines. Rapid cultural
change as the economics forced changes in the dominant culture, which I
accept may not be as easy to change back. What I am against is using a
stereotyped cultural explanation to blame the poor for their own fate or to
suggest that the remedy is the introduction of a 'work culture'.
I know that isn't what you meant and I think you were referring to a
different issue - why people put up with it in the first place. Clearly some
of those reasons are cultural (so I accept the power of the American dream
David K mentions). But I think those cultural aspects are potentially at
least changeable, sometimes very quickly and deeply, not purely or
automatically by the force of events (though that can sometimes happen too)
but through coming to reflect on and understand those events in a different
way.
I'm afraid I can't be there tomorrow as I'm not very well but I will be
there in spirit and on the lookout for other opportunities to march.
Bruce
PS: You may already have twigged but we knew each other about 35 years ago
when (I assume) we both had more hair!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Williams" <julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: [xmca] return of culture of poverty
Bruce
But surely in a way aren't these people right: sometimes the rightists put
their finger not on but somewhere near the pulse - they speak of the
philosophy of poverty rather than the poverty of philosophy... surely the
main reasons poverty continues and we cant get the blood-suckers off our
necks today ARE cultural as well as political, pace Bourdieu, unless you
think the main reason for the present lack of rebellion is something else
...
Hope to see you in London tomorrow behind the students/workers/academics
banners... 12 noon on the embankment.
Julian
-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of Bruce Robinson
Sent: 09 November 2010 11:23
To: eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] return of culture of poverty
We Brits are now seeing this sort of ideas being pushed as a rationale for
dismantling the welfare state, introducing workfare, and stigmatising the
unemployed and sick. We are told work, whether compulsory or voluntary, is a
solution for those on benefits long term, even when few jobs exist and the
cuts mean there'll be even fewer. They are to blame because they supposedly
have no motivation to change unless pushed to the starvation line. The US is
being used as a more or less conscious model for these changes.
Bruce R
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture,Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:24 AM
Subject: [xmca] return of culture of poverty
This topic is, indeed, coming back in a big way.
mike
October 17, 2010
'Culture of Poverty' Makes a Comeback By PATRICIA
COHEN<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/patricia_cohen/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
For more than 40 years, social scientists investigating the causes of
poverty have tended to treat cultural explanations like Lord Voldemort: That
Which Must Not Be Named.
The reticence was a legacy of the ugly battles that erupted after Daniel
Patrick
Moynihan<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/daniel_patrick_moynihan/index.html?inline=nyt-per>,
then an assistant labor secretary in the Johnson administration, introduced
the idea of a "culture of poverty" to the public in a startling 1965
report<http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/webid-meynihan.htm>.
Although Moynihan didn't coin the phrase (that distinction belongs to the
anthropologist Oscar Lewis
<http://www.blacksacademy.net/content/3253.html>),
his description of the urban black family as caught in an inescapable
"tangle of pathology" of unmarried mothers and welfare dependency was seen
as attributing self-perpetuating moral deficiencies to black people, as if
blaming them for their own misfortune.
Moynihan's analysis never lost its appeal to conservative thinkers, whose
arguments ultimately succeeded when President Bill
Clinton<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/bill_clinton/index.html?inline=nyt-per>signed
a bill in 1996 "ending welfare as we know it." But in the
overwhelmingly liberal ranks of academic sociology and anthropology the word
"culture" became a live grenade, and the idea that attitudes and behavior
patterns kept people poor was shunned.
Now, after decades of silence, these scholars are speaking openly about
you-know-what, conceding that culture and persistent poverty are enmeshed.
"We've finally reached the stage where people aren't afraid of being
politically incorrect," said Douglas S. Massey, a sociologist at Princeton
who has argued <http://ann.sagepub.com/content/621/1.toc> that Moynihan was
unfairly maligned.
The old debate has shaped the new. Last month Princeton and the Brookings
Institution<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/b/brookings_institution/index.html?inline=nyt-org>released
a collection
of
papers<http://futureofchildren.org/futureofchildren/publications/journals/journal_details/index.xml?journalid=73>on
unmarried parents, a subject, it noted, that became off-limits after
the
Moynihan report. At the recent annual meeting of the American Sociological
Association, attendees discussed the resurgence of scholarship on culture.
And in Washington last spring, social scientists participated in a
Congressional
briefing<http://www.aapss.org/news/2010/06/18/reconsidering-culture-and-poverty-a-congressional-briefing>on
culture and poverty linked to a special issue
of The Annals <http://ann.sagepub.com/content/629/1/6.full.pdf+html>, the
journal of the American Academy of Political and Social
Science<http://www.aapss.org/>.
"Culture is back on the poverty research agenda," the introduction declares,
acknowledging that it should never have been removed.
The topic has generated interest on Capitol Hill because so much of the
research intersects with policy debates. Views of the cultural roots of
poverty "play important roles in shaping how lawmakers choose to address
poverty issues," Representative Lynn Woolsey, Democrat of California, noted
at the briefing.
This surge of academic research also comes as the percentage of Americans
living in
poverty<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/us/17poverty.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=eric%20eckholm%20poverty&st=cse>hit
a 15-year high: one in seven, or 44 million.
With these studies come many new and varied definitions of culture, but they
all differ from the '60s-era model in these crucial respects: Today, social
scientists are rejecting the notion of a monolithic and unchanging culture
of poverty. And they attribute destructive attitudes and behavior not to
inherent moral character but to sustained racism and isolation.
To Robert J. Sampson, a sociologist at
Harvard<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/harvard_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org>,
culture is best understood as "shared understandings."
"I study inequality, and the dominant focus is on structures of poverty," he
said. But he added that the reason a neighborhood turns into a "poverty
trap" is also related to a common perception of the way people in a
community act and think. When people see graffiti and garbage, do they find
it acceptable or see serious disorder? Do they respect the legal system or
have a high level of "moral cynicism," believing that "laws were made to be
broken"?
As part of a large research project in Chicago, Professor Sampson walked
through different neighborhoods this summer, dropping stamped, addressed
envelopes to see how many people would pick up an apparently lost letter and
mail it, a sign that looking out for others is part of the community's
culture.
In some neighborhoods, like Grand Boulevard, where the notorious Robert
Taylor public housing projects once stood, almost no envelopes were mailed;
in others researchers received more than half of the letters back. Income
levels did not necessarily explain the difference, Professor Sampson said,
but rather the community's cultural norms, the levels of moral cynicism and
disorder.
The shared perception of a neighborhood - is it on the rise or stagnant? -
does a better job of predicting a community's future than the actual level
of poverty, he said.
William Julius
Wilson<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/william_julius_wilson/index.html?inline=nyt-per>,
whose pioneering work boldly confronted ghetto life while focusing on
economic explanations for persistent poverty, defines culture as the way
"individuals in a community develop an understanding of how the world works
and make decisions based on that understanding."
For some young black men, Professor Wilson, a Harvard sociologist, said, the
world works like this: "If you don't develop a tough demeanor, you won't
survive. If you have access to weapons, you get them, and if you get into a
fight, you have to use them."
Seeking to recapture the topic from economists, sociologists have ventured
into poor neighborhoods to delve deeper into the attitudes of residents.
Their results have challenged some common assumptions, like the belief that
poor mothers remain single because they don't value marriage.
In Philadelphia, for example, low-income mothers told the sociologists
Kathryn Edin and Maria Kefalas that they thought marriage was profoundly
important, even sacred, but doubted that their partners were "marriage
material." Their results have prompted some lawmakers and poverty experts to
conclude that programs that promote marriage without changing economic and
social conditions are unlikely to work.
Mario Luis Small, a sociologist at the University of
Chicago<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/university_of_chicago/index.html?inline=nyt-org>and
an editor of The Annals' special issue, tried to figure out why some
New
York City mothers with children in day care developed networks of support
while others did not. As he explained in his 2009 book, "Unanticipated
Gains,"
<http://home.uchicago.edu/%7Emariosmall/documents/UG_Chapter1.pdf>the
answer did not depend on income or ethnicity, but rather the rules of
the day-care institution. Centers that held frequent field trips, organized
parents' associations and had pick-up and drop-off procedures created more
opportunities for parents to connect.
Younger academics like Professor Small, 35, attributed the upswing in
cultural explanations to a "new generation of scholars without the baggage
of that debate."
Scholars like Professor Wilson, 74, who have tilled the field much longer,
mentioned the development of more sophisticated data and analytical tools.
He said he felt compelled to look more closely at culture after the
publication of Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein's controversial 1994
book, "The Bell Curve," which attributed African-Americans' lower I.Q.
scores to genetics.
The authors claimed to have taken family background into account, Professor
Wilson said, but "they had not captured the cumulative effects of living in
poor, racially segregated neighborhoods."
He added, "I realized we needed a comprehensive measure of the environment,
that we must consider structural *and* cultural forces."
He mentioned a study by Professor Sampson, 54, that found that growing up in
areas where violence limits socializing outside the family and where parents
haven't attended college stunts verbal ability, lowering I.Q. scores by as
much as six points, the equivalent of missing more than a year in school.
Changes outside campuses have made conversation about the cultural roots of
poverty easier than it was in the '60s. Divorce, living together without
marrying, and single motherhood are now commonplace. At the same time
prominent African-Americans have begun to speak out on the subject. In 2004
the comedian Bill
Cosby<http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm>made
headlines when he criticized poor blacks for "not parenting" and
dropping out of school. President
Obama<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per>,
who was abandoned by his father, has repeatedly talked about "responsible
fatherhood."
Conservatives also deserve credit, said Kay S. Hymowitz, a fellow at the
conservative Manhattan Institute, for their sustained focus on family values
and marriage even when cultural explanations were disparaged.
Still, worries about blaming the victim persist. Policy makers and the
public still tend to view poverty through one of two competing lenses,
Michèle
Lamont <http://www2.cifar.ca/research/successful-societies-program/>,
another editor of the special issue of The Annals, said: "Are the poor poor
because they are lazy, or are the poor poor because they are a victim of the
markets?"
So even now some sociologists avoid words like "values" and "morals" or
reject the idea that, as The Annals put it, "a group's culture is more or
less coherent." Watered-down definitions of culture, Ms. Hymowitz
complained, reduce some of the new work to "sociological pablum."
"If anthropologists had come away from doing field work in New Guinea
concluding 'everyone's different,' but sometimes people help each other
out," she wrote in an e-mail, "there would be no field of anthropology - and
no word culture for cultural sociologists to bend to their will."
Fuzzy definitions or not, culture is back. This prompted mock surprise from
Rep. Woolsey at last spring's Congressional briefing: "What a concept.
Values, norms, beliefs play very important roles in the way people meet the
challenges of poverty."
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