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RE: [xmca] LSV on the preschool stage

check our Foucault and madness and civilization as well as birth of the clinic - also in discipline and punish there's a great chapter on docile bodies - Peter, i"m putting forth these suggestions because as a reviewer for a number of proposals for ISCAR-Rome, i was greatly interested and impressed by those proposals that had a literature review that moved outside of the usual socio-historical-cultural body of work and integrated with other fields (i.e., in one case postmodern french feminist theory of gender).  also, the scotsman Laing could be of great interest.

phillip


Phillip White, PhD
University of Colorado Denver
School of Education
phillip.white@ucdenver.edu
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Eric et al., I'm scheduled to present at ISCAR on:
"Every individual has his own insanity": Applying Vygotsky's work on defectology to the question of mental health as an issue of inclusion.
Now, all I have to do is write it. It's a followup paper to a paper that's in press that challenges mental health discourse that characterizes non-normative (or extranormative as I call it in the paper) mental health as disability and uses LSV's work on defectology to help argue for changes in setting surrounding neuroatypical mental health makeups.


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Martin:  Thank for that clarification.  XMCA is such an excellent
classroom!

I know that LSV wrote on defectology but it was not in the clarity of
which he wrote thinking and speech.  Has anyone seen investigations in
developmental disabilities from LSV's developmental standpoint?

eric



From:   Martin Packer <packer@duq.edu>
To:     "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date:   10/14/2010 11:50 AM
Subject:        Re: [xmca] LSV on the preschool stage
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On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:35 AM, ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org wrote:

> I agree with your initial assessment that LSV believes development first

> comes from outside the child and that Piaget believes children have
inate
> thinking abilities that are strengthened as they develop.

Eric,

My way of putting it would be more like this: that for Piaget the child is
continuously interacting with the environment and adapting to it.
'Interiorization,' is the process of child's 'reflexive abstraction' of
their own actions into increasingly abstract and mental operations.

For LSV there is, equally, always an interaction between child and
(social) environment, but the process of development always involves a
'social moment,' so that functions first move 'inward psychologically' as
the child becomes aware of and masters what was previously social, and
then 'inward physiologically' as functional brain systems develop direct
linkages to handle what was previously only possible through motor-sensory
linkages mediated outside the body.

The latter account leaves out the alternation of 'periods' and 'crises'
during development, however.

As for the case of children with developmental disabilities, that lies way
outside my meager areas of expertise.

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