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Re: [xmca] Fwd: NYTimes.com: What Is It About 20-Somethings?
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- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:18:51 -0700
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The chapter is in *The Development of Children.* I no longer have a workable
word file of it I am afraid -- and it was a general
textbook, not a CHAT monograph, so perhaps of limited use.
mike
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Steve Gabosch <stevegabosch@me.com> wrote:
> Mike, is the 1983 book you are referring to below the Handbook on Child
> Development, Vol 1, 1983, ed by P Mussen, et al?
>
> The chapter on lifespan development sounds interesting.
>
> What has been published from a CHAT perspective on that?
>
> - Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:12 PM, mike cole wrote:
>
> There is some interesting writing on cultural variations in the transition
>> referred to currently as
>> emerging adulthood, Steve. Our introductory developmental book published
>> in
>> 1983 had a chapter devoted to sketching out a lifespan developmental
>> psychology. Unfortunately, that chapter was cut by the publishers because
>> it
>> made the book too long. Its ripe for the picking, Steve, as you point out.
>>
>> The version of stage theory Lerner adopts renders culture irrelevant to
>> the
>> process of development.
>> It is this aspect of Piagetian theory that evokes the conclusion that
>> Piaget's is a purely biological process and this aspect of his theory that
>> energizes many neo-Piagetians as well.
>> mike
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Steve Gabosch <stevegabosch@me.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My take on Arnett's and other's proposal - that there is "developing
>>> adult"
>>> developmental stage - analogous, as the article describes, to the
>>> discovery
>>> of the developmental stage "adolescence" by Stanley Hall in 1904 - is
>>> that
>>> this is the beginning of extending developmental psychology as a
>>> discipline
>>> into the study of adulthood, which is long overdue. Here, as in many
>>> other
>>> places, CHAT has marvelous opportunities to shed light. My own thinking
>>> is
>>> that adults, like children, also have their "stages" of development,
>>> although not the kind of rigid stages that Richard Lerner describes.
>>> Page
>>> 8, where Lerner is quoted to counterbalance Arnett, is not a bad place to
>>> begin the article, for those wanting to browse. Says Lerner: “The core
>>> idea
>>> of classical stage theory is that all people — underscore ‘all’ — pass
>>> through a series of qualitatively different periods in an invariant and
>>> universal sequence in stages that can’t be skipped or reordered ...” I
>>> think CHAT can come up with a better way of understanding adult
>>> development
>>> than that ...
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 1:10 PM, mike cole wrote:
>>>
>>> This article takes up transition to adulthood. Among the things that I
>>>
>>>> found
>>>> interesting in it was Lerner's position on stages. Reminiscent of
>>>> Tolman's
>>>> argument with Lerner in his article. Lerner is the "mr contextualist" of
>>>> developmental psychology, which really makes his arguments about stages
>>>> contradictory to me.
>>>>
>>>> and you?
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> * What Is It About 20-Somethings?
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>>>> >
>>>> *
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