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Subject: Re: [xmca] Vygotsky courses: Ensemble.2010
From: Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:02:58 +0000
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To join Ensemble.2010@googlegroups.com in English:
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Luísa A.

On 12 February 2010 08:01, Steve Gabosch <stevegabosch@me.com> wrote:

> Just wanted to point out that about a dozen xmca'ers, at Mike's initiative,
> have recently started up a Google Group called Ensemble.2010, which is
> discussing ways to collect CHAT-related course information - syllabi, video,
> text, etc. - from around the world.  This was mentioned on this list a week
> or so ago.  Shirley's work is a great start!  We are discussing the pros and
> cons of YouTube, Vimeo, Moodle, and lots of other aspects and possibilities.
>
> All xmca'ers are welcome to join the group, and listen in and participate.
>
> Below are instructions on how to join if you have a Gmail account.  I am
> not sure how to get in without one, but others might know.
>
> To join Ensemble.2010@googlegroups.com
>
> 1. Go to this url:
>
> http://groups.google.pt/group/Ensemble2010/sub?s=p53bRAwAAACnrfxpktePeQIgVzvAvvhX&hl=pt-PT
>
> 2. Click on:   Inicie sessão e insceva-se para solicitar adesão (Log on and
> sign up for membership)
>
> 3.  This will take you to a Google log-in page.  Enter your G-mail account
> (these accounts are free).  This will take you to the Google Group
> Ensemble.2010
>
> 4.  At Ensemble.2010, click on the third choice if you want an email
> digest, or the fourth choice if you want individual emails.
>
> 5.  Click on:   Aplicar a este grupo    (Apply to this group).
>
> 6.  You will be contacted through your G-mail account.
>
> Thanks for joining us!
>
> - Steve
>
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> On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:33 PM, mike cole wrote:
>
> OK by me on xmca website.
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>>
>> Could Shirley update her list? and maybe get Bruce to archive it on the
>>> LCHC website for future reference?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> mike cole wrote:
>>>
>>> Great start with that list.
>>>> Who is Tonyan at Northridge and why are we not in touch with her??
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Ana Marjanovic-Shane <
>>>> ana@zmajcenter.org
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Shirley,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great idea. Thanks for the work. I also have something to
>>>>> add,
>>>>> as
>>>>> Lois does.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I am afraid that we will create many different copies of the
>>>>> document.
>>>>> I will just send you the information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading through the document you sent, I became curious about details
>>>>> and
>>>>> content of some of the mentioned course. I think that the next step
>>>>> should
>>>>> be for us (XMCA) to somehow create a repository of the Syllabi for
>>>>> these
>>>>> (and other) course. A place where we all can share and enrich our
>>>>> courses
>>>>> with the ideas from each other. Would something like that be possible??
>>>>> There are already some websites where teachers share materials, lesson
>>>>> plans, syllabi and/pr reading lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for such a great job, Shirley.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ana
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are details of my courses:
>>>>> Module: Educational Psychology, Level: undergraduate and graduate,
>>>>> Content:
>>>>> human development, learning theories, Place: Chestnut Hill College,
>>>>> Philadelphia, Name: Ana Marjanovic, Shane
>>>>> Module: Culturally Responsive Teaching Practices in Special Education,
>>>>> Level: Graduate, Content: social aspects of development, culture in
>>>>> development and education, Place: Chestnut Hill College, Philadelphia,
>>>>> Name:
>>>>> Ana Marjanovic-Shane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________
>>>>> Dr. Ana Marjanovic-Shane
>>>>> Assistant Professor of Education
>>>>> Chestnut Hill College
>>>>> e-mails:  Marjanovic-ShaneA@chc.edu
>>>>>              ana@zmajcenter.org
>>>>> Phone:    267-334-2905
>>>>> Chestnut Hill College…celebrating 85 years of tradition and risk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Shirley Franklin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Lois.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be great. I won't feel so badly about the incompleteness of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it, if people add to it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Shirley
>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:04, Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some to add to the list; shall I do so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>>>> www.performingtheworld.org
>>>>>>> loisholzman.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:32 AM, Shirley Franklin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Various people have asked me for the collated list of courses on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vygotsky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I constructed the attached from the responses I received.I am sure this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is a just a soupcons of what people are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shirley<Vygotsky Courses.doc>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11 Feb 2010, at 00:07, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shirley,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any chance that you could share the results of your research last
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> year?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve, in May last year there was a discussion on xmca about
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Teaching Vygotsky", initiated by Shirley Franklin. Here's the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thread:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/xmcamail.2009_05.dir/msg00212.html
>>>>>
>>>>> In this thread a lot of people gave information about the courses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> they teach in CHAT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Steve Gabosch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One aspect (of many) on the content side might be to collect
>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> syllabi from around the world.  I am thinking along the lines -
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> perhaps too
>>>>> grandly? - that this project could become a place where materials from
>>>>> and
>>>>> information about hundreds of CHAT-relevant and CHAT-related courses -
>>>>> and
>>>>> sections of courses - from a wide variety of places and venues could be
>>>>> assembled and organized ... perhaps via a wiki.  It might be a useful
>>>>> resource to see so many syllabi from so many places inter-linked by
>>>>> topics,
>>>>> keywords, readings, etc.  Am I thinking too big here?  I wonder how
>>>>> many
>>>>> such syllabi are on the computers of xmca'ers alone as we speak ...
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so while we're investigating options for archiving the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> resources, we need a process for drawing up a grand list of
>>>>>>>>>>> topics
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think,
>>>>> so we can start assigning topics to lecturers, and recruiting speakers.
>>>>> The
>>>>> latter task involves all sorts of quality issues, whether technical,
>>>>> pedagogic or scientific, but first we need a kind of master program,
>>>>> probably enough topics for a 3-year course. :) No need to skimp on
>>>>> resources.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do people want to start building that up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be able to tell you about Vimeo tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    www.performingtheworld.org <http://www.performingtheworld.org> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you tell us about Vimeo, Lois? And Mike you will report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back what Bruce can tell us. What we need to know is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> * is it free and public domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    * is it likely to remain free and open for a decade?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * can videos be uploaded by any self-registered user?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * can it store and stream hour-long videos reliably?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * is it under the sway of corporate interests?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * is additional tech support needed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lois Holzman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't read the messages carefully so apologies if I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> We use Vimeo as the place to see our videos. It works fine!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Lois Holzman, Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> East Side Institute for Group and Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 920 Broadway, 14th floor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New York NY 10010
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tel. 212.941.8906 ext. 324
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fax 718.797.3966
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.eastsideinstitute.org <http://www.eastsideinstitute.org> <
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.eastsideinstitute.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> www.performingtheworld.org <http://www.performingtheworld.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.performingtheworld.org> <http://loisholzman.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> loisholzman.org <http://loisholzman.org> <
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://loisholzman.net/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Andy Blunden wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not terribly good news.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only ever watch youtube when people embed videos on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FaceBook sites and this is pretty much what we'd be doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> The reasons I have not volunteered marxists.org <
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://marxists.org> <http://marxists.org> for video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> streaming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that I
>>>>> fear it may place too much load on our server and the name of the URL
>>>>> may
>>>>> offend some. On the first point, I will speak to the tech guy and see
>>>>> if
>>>>> this is real.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was involved in setting up the lecture recording facility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melbourne University. One of the factors was that we had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up the
>>>>> streaming so that students had to be registered on the relevant course
>>>>> before they could view a lecture. An alternative was to prevent the
>>>>> video
>>>>> being watched from outside the university, but this was not good
>>>>> enough,
>>>>> because non-students could watch from within the university.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surprisingly, it was not the bean counters who insisted on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this, but the lecturers, and it was not so much their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intellectual
>>>>> property" that they were worried about, but their peers getting to
>>>>> watch
>>>>> their performance. It is one thing to make a factual error in front of
>>>>> a
>>>>> group of students who don't know any better and your words disappear
>>>>> into
>>>>> the ether as soon as they are spoken, but quite another if your
>>>>> colleagues
>>>>> can watch and re-watch it around a cup of coffee and have a good laugh.
>>>>> Likewise, 30-second ummmmms, scrambling around with your notes,
>>>>> speaking
>>>>> in
>>>>> monotones, etc. A lecturer in finance said that if the comments he made
>>>>> about named businesses to illustrate his lectures were made public it
>>>>> could
>>>>> cause disruption to the stock exchange and also get him sued.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the restriction of the videos turned out to be the /sine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qua non/ of streaming. Sorry to throw in a wobbly, but we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hear from
>>>>> some of our lecturers about this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Gabosch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On this question of downloading from YouTube - here are some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links with relevant information.  Apparently, this question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading
>>>>> from YouTube is in the process of changing.  YouTube is exploring how
>>>>> it
>>>>> can
>>>>> make money allowing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, on the YouTube terms and conditions.  One relevant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condition is 5B, where it says: "You shall not copy or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download any User
>>>>> Submission unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by
>>>>> YouTube
>>>>> on the YouTube Website for that User Submission."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/t/terms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Some political videos began to get "download" buttons about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.cnet.com/some-youtube-videos-get-download-option/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Video ripping has become more difficult, and is obviously not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an option for us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/02/---mark-milian.html?cid=149000259
>>>>>
>>>>> The really important thing from our point of view that is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing is YouTube is starting to charge fees for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download button.
>>>>> Note that, according to this next article, some universities are using
>>>>> YouTube to provide lectures free.  But are they paying YouTube some
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> fee for this service?  And most important, does, or might YouTube and
>>>>> Google, provide a free download option to non-profit, educational
>>>>> efforts
>>>>> such as ours?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/12/AR2009021203239.html
>>>>>
>>>>> All the above articles are about a year old, so there are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably newer developments.  I am just learning about all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> The above links are all from the current article on YouTube in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia.  A relevant passage from that article is copied
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Content accessibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the key features of YouTube is the ability of users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view its videos on web pages outside the site. Each YouTube
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video is
>>>>> accompanied by a piece of HTML <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML>,
>>>>> which
>>>>> can be used to embed it on a page outside the YouTube website. This
>>>>> functionality is often used to embed YouTube videos in social
>>>>> networking
>>>>> <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking> pages and blogs <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog>.^[80] <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-79>
>>>>>
>>>>> YouTube does not usually offer a download link for its videos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and intends that they are viewed through its website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.^[81] <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-80>  A small number of
>>>>> videos, such as the weekly addresses by President Barack Obama <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama>, can be downloaded as MP4 <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14> files.^[82] <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-81>  Numerous
>>>>> third-party
>>>>> web sites, applications and browser plug-ins <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_(computing)<
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29>
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29>>
>>>>>
>>>>> allow users to download YouTube videos.^[83] <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-82>  In February 2009,
>>>>> YouTube announced a test service, allowing some partners to offer video
>>>>> downloads for free or for a fee paid through Google Checkout <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Checkout>.^[84] <
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#cite_note-83>
>>>>>
>>>>> *****************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      - Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Mabel Encinas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can. I have done it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mabel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:56:06 +0000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Subject: Re: infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: laires11@gmail.com <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:laires11@gmail.com> <mailto:laires11@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> To: ensemble2010@googlegroups.com <mailto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensemble2010@googlegroups.com> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensemble2010@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> <mailto:ensemble2010@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>       Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about that (but I think it´s possible).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luísa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 February 2010 11:43, Steve Gabosch <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stevegabosch99@gmail.com <mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>> stevegabosch99@gmail.com> <mailto:stevegabosch99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an interesting technical question about YouTube.  One
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> of course get a streaming download from YouTube while
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> the internet, but can one also download the file of a video
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> they can show it later without being connected to the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> - Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Hegel Summer School
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/hss10.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hegel, Goethe and the Planet: 13 February 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Hegel Summer School
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/hss10.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hegel, Goethe and the Planet: 13 February 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Hegel Summer School
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/hss10.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hegel, Goethe and the Planet: 13 February 2010.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Hegel Summer School
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  http://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/hss10.htm
>>>>>>>>> Hegel, Goethe and the Planet: 13 February 2010.
>>>>>>>>>
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