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Re: [xmca] Re: Master’s program based on CHAT

A major stumbling bloc)k, I believe, Andy, is that various people want to do
this as THEIR thing (THEY being located some PLACE (Moscow, Helsinki, etc.).
I have
NO interest in such an undertaking. My idea is that each PLACE would give
credit according to their internal rules/affordances such that students got
credit-- I have no hope of getting credit to the profs contributing, which i
suspect others DO have). Then, if we had some minimum number of sessions (10
is my local number, for others it can be 18 or more) in common and we
organized an equal, or more or less equal number of "speakers" whose
"speaking" was recorded and archived and a list-serve or a google wave or a
blog or........ local people could grade/credit their own. Cost is minimal
(UCSD in cooperation with a few other places could "host" and store the blah
blah blah and common texts for no charge).

Seems like is "could" work. But I sense reluctance to be so non-enterprising
with no special credit going to any one entrepreneur. I might be wrong. All
I know is that I can repeat these ideas in as many fora as I like and the
answer....... well, there is no answer.
You know how it goes: No mind? Never mind.
:-))
mike
PS-- Annalise-- Would you pass this along to the group to whom you announced
the Helsinki class?


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> With time on my hands I certainly could contribute, but we really need
> someone with an academic position and experience to set up the rules and
> recruit other academics. But I could assist for sure. I cocordinate within a
> given group of participants. I could also talk within my narrow area of
> expertise.
>
> Andy
>
> mike cole wrote:
>
>> Sure. And since you are retired with lots of spare time on your hands, you
>> could be the master coordinator, right Andy? (Speaking of which, has anyone
>> heard from Anna recently?)
>>
>> To those who ask shall be given.
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:
>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    Much as I always like to make myself useful there is nothing I can
>>    do as an unqualified retiree ... but it seems to me that this
>>    wonderful collaborative idea needs to *seeded*. COuldn't LCHC and
>>    Peter Sawchuk's department and maybe Anna Stetsenko's department, or
>>    any group of say three North American Departments launch something?
>>    And once it's on the road, invite others to join?
>>
>>    Andy
>>
>>
>>    mike cole wrote:
>>
>>        Yep. Any collective will out there to make this happen? I can't
>>        see it,
>>        maybe because of the blinding rain around here.
>>        mike
>>
>>        On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Larry Purss <lpurss@shaw.ca
>>        <mailto:lpurss@shaw.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>            Mike
>>            If such a course did exist then cohorts of teachers or
>>            others in a shared
>>            work environment could take the course together as a shared
>>            project :-)
>>            Larry
>>
>>            ----- Original Message -----
>>            From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com
>> >>
>>            Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:18 am
>>            Subject: [xmca] Re: Master’s program based on CHAT
>>            To: asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
>>            <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
>>            Cc: J.Derry@ioe.ac.uk <mailto:J.Derry@ioe.ac.uk>,
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>>            saija.volmari@helsinki.fi
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>>
>>
>>                I guess my question is this:
>>
>>                Why are we not, collectively, offering such a course,
>>                where each
>>                member of
>>                the collective you are trying to form gives a
>>                lecture/discussion via
>>                internet DL? Credit could be given locally, or they
>>                could all
>>                pay Helsinki a
>>                fee. Or whatever.
>>
>>                Wouldn't that help build collaboration or is it not
>>                meaningful?
>>                mike
>>
>>                On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM,
>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
>>
>>                    Dear Mike,
>>
>>                    We feel that it is beneficial to inform colleagues
>>                    about this,
>>
>>                even if they
>>
>>                    live far away.
>>
>>                    With kind regards,
>>                    Annalisa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                    Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com
>>                    <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>:
>>
>>
>>                     Well, too bad and good luck to those who have the time
>>
>>                and money to come
>>
>>                        to
>>                        Helsinki.
>>
>>                        Might there be a better way to proceed?
>>                        mike
>>
>>                        On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:42 AM,
>>
>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Hello Mike!
>>
>>                            This is not a dl class. Sorry for not being
>>                            explicit about
>>
>>                this already
>>
>>                            in
>>                            the message.
>>
>>                            With kind regards,
>>                            Annalisa
>>
>>
>>
>>                            Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com
>>                            <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>:
>>
>>
>>                             Do students have to be physically present,
>>                            or is this
>>
>>                a dl class?
>>
>>                                mike
>>
>>                                On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 AM,
>>
>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
>>
>>                                 Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>                                    At University of Helsinki, we are
>>                                    running a Master’s
>>
>>                program (in
>>
>>                                    English)
>>                                    in Adult Education and Developmental
>>                                    Work Research. This
>>
>>                program is
>>
>>                                    based
>>                                    on
>>                                    cultural-historical activity theory
>>                                    and aimed at training
>>
>>                competent>>>>> developers and interventionists in
>>                workplaces and
>>                other organizations.
>>
>>                                     Please find below a link to a the
>>                                    call for applications:
>>
>>                                    http://www.helsinki.fi/atmo/index.htm
>>
>>                                    The deadline is the 1st of February
>>                                    for applicants who
>>
>>                have gained
>>
>>                                    their
>>                                    degrees outside Nordic countries.
>>                                    For those with degrees
>>
>>                from Nordic
>>
>>                                    countries, the deadline is the 26th
>>                                    of February.
>>
>>                                    With kind regards,
>>
>>                                    Yrjö Engeström      Reijo
>>
>>                Miettinen     Annalisa
>>                Sannino     Saija
>>
>>                                    Volmari
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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