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RE: [xmca] Fwd: NYTimes.com: Hispanic Immigrants' Children Fall Behind Peers Early, Study Finds
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- Subject: RE: [xmca] Fwd: NYTimes.com: Hispanic Immigrants' Children Fall Behind Peers Early, Study Finds
- From: "Peter Smagorinsky" <smago@uga.edu>
- Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:15:49 -0400
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Luis has published much on this topic, e.g., his chapter in Vygotsky and
Education (L. Moll, Ed.)
Peter Smagorinsky
Professor of English Education
Department of Language and Literacy Education
The University of Georgia
125 Aderhold Hall
Athens, GA 30602
smago@uga.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
Behalf Of mike cole
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:04 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Fwd: NYTimes.com: Hispanic Immigrants' Children Fall
Behind Peers Early, Study Finds
I have lots of questions, too, Nacho and Peter. Including the general
endorsement attributed to Eugene Garcia who is well known in his
championship of bilingual education and development of Latino kids.
Lets see if we can find the published papers.
mike
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
> So, I'm wondering, by what measure are these kids determined to be
> cognitively behind? The author of the study sounds Anglo, and Luis Moll
has
> argued for decades that conventional US school measurements overlook the
> sophisticated cognitive work accomplished in Mexican-American community
> life, e.g., distilling medicine from crickets, repairing machinery, and
> otherwise spinning straw into gold in the face of poverty. Might there be
> the sort of mismatch between cultural knowledge and research measurement
> that Mike Cole has brought to my attention for many years? One lesson I've
> learned from Mike is that if kids are doing poorly on tasks, then change
> the
> task and see what happens. Is the mismeasurement of man and woman at work
> here?
>
> Peter Smagorinsky
> Professor of English Education
> Department of Language and Literacy Education
> The University of Georgia
> 125 Aderhold Hall
> Athens, GA 30602
> smago@uga.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:14 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity; Bud Mehan; Olga vasquez
> Subject: [xmca] Fwd: NYTimes.com: Hispanic Immigrants' Children Fall
Behind
> Peers Early, Study Finds
>
> NY Times story with implications for many of us.
> mike
>
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