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Re: [xmca] A shot at definition of consciousness



Andy:

Yes I would agree.  Thank you.  In mulling over the idea of Cs I reread 
some Basov (those who know Basov would recognize the term "process 
structure") as well as some Valsiner (who alos liked the term "process 
structure").  IMHO the definition has to include the transitioning (some 
would say dialectic, I like the term transition) aspect between the sensed 
and the acted.  The material aspect of language forces me to use examples. 
 Perhaps it was a poor example?  During my waking hours there appears to 
be times when I am not conscious of what I am doing (i.e driving the same 
route home i can arrive home and realize I have forgotten to get the 
groceries because it is almost an uncounscious act to follow the road and 
listen to Buddy Guy playing the blues).  So, referring to LSV's definition 
below my unconscious act of following a set route could be referred to as 
a reflex?

eric




Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
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09/29/2009 03:15 AM
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What about this Eric, from Vygotsky's famous 6 January 1924 
speech:

"And the act of thought, the act of consciousness is in our 
opinion not a reflex, that is, it cannot also be a stimulus, 
but it is the transmission mechanism between systems of 
reflexes."

http://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/1925/reflexology.htm

That's like yours, but somewhat more general, not involving 
rent and jobs.

Andy
ERIC.RAMBERG@spps.org wrote:
> Hello all:
> 
> Here is an attempt:
> 
> Consciousness is the governor that allows for integration between the 
> process structure of internal senses with the outside sensory 
stimulations 
> for the purpose of goal-directed activity.  It is the transition from "I 

> need a job to pay rent" to "I need a job that allows me to have an 
> identity".
> 
> eric
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