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Re: [xmca] Consciousness, Piaget

sounds like paraphrase of Sfard to me. But still reading and thinking.
mike

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Mike Cole wrote:
>
>> One of these is her suggestion that a concept is " a word or other
>> signifier
>> WITH ITS DISCURSIVE USE (my emphasis). That complicates identifying words
>> and concepts and moves us toward a Wittgensteinian notion of word meaning.
>>
>
> My take is that a concept is a word (or phrase or other symbol) + the
> actions in which it is realized, so it is constantly re-instantiated every
> time a word is used. The artifact is just the universal. A concept is not
> real or alive until the universal is identified with particular actions by
> individuals. Think of the Rossetta stone. Under what circumstances were
> those hieroglyphs concepts?
>
> Peirce had things to say about this.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>> I also think that reading the Davydov materials posted by Andy is
>> important
>> because VVD was quite critical of Vygotsky's notion of concept.
>>
>
> Indeed, this discussion is extremely important. Give me another 24 hours.
> ...
>
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