[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [xmca] Kindergarten Cram: When is play?



Associational chains, whether they occur to us naturally or are just a  
mode of linking meanings that gets out of control as the text-scales  
get longer, sure can take us on a Grand Tour!  from no time for play  
in early childhood schooling, to the excesses and illusions of  
testing, to demanding essay tasks in (Confucian) testing vs.  
deskilling ones in NCLB (the routinization of the 5-paragraph  
"essay"), to how to think about writing and written language as higher- 
order, developmentally late processes in relation to inner and outer  
speech, materiality, contextualization, etc.
Whew!

I'm not sure how to organize my reactions, so I won't particularly try. Here they are. Organize them yourself!
Convergent evolution in examinations. The same surface phenomena can  
evolve historically as they can biologically in quite different  
lineages for quite different reasons. Confucian examinations and  
modern essay testing look a bit alike at some level of abstraction,  
but I think that in terms of their historical specificity and  
functions, they are really quite different. So I think David is  
probably right that the Confucian meritocratic system does not have  
much to do with modern school testing, though it may envelope the  
latter in a certain cultural web of supportive feelings about  
importance, honour, upward mobility, etc.
But what's so great, or hard about writing, anyway? that we should  
consider it the most reliable index of knowledge and understanding, or  
even of the habitus by which one succeeds in academia or elsewhere in  
the wider "Knowledge Society"?
David adduces and modifies a  bit, LSV's original arguments about  
written language. I think LSV got a lot of this right, but not all of  
it. Written language is really different from spoken, does require a  
higher level (i.e. a successor level building on the first) of  
"abstract" functioning -- though what "abstract" really means here, as  
Mike points out in his questions, and David tries to explicate and  
complicate, is problematic. LSV is trying in part to articulate  
relationships among 3 modes of language: written, spoken, and 'inner  
speech'. The kinds of "abstraction" that distinguish W from S, and S  
from IS, however are not quite the same, and we can emphasize their  
similarities or their differences. I think this leads to a large space  
of possible and actual confusion.
What LSV is most wrong about, IMHO, is in accepting the universally  
accepted view of his times that written language is a more highly  
developed or more completely expressive (i.e. explicitizing) variety  
than spoken. With tape recorders we have learned differently. Spoken  
language, in situ, with interlocutors, is vastly more complex and  
richer in meaning possibilities and actualities, than written  
language. Written language is a specialized form, limited in what it  
can say and do by the conventions it requires in order to overcome  
everything that is normally missing from the full, natural  
communication system of spoken language (which is not just language,  
an artificial unit of analysis -- it is the unified system of speech,  
gesture, posture, and many aspects of action generally).
 Written language has been overvalued for many reasons, mostly  
ideological. Its association with Sacred Texts, first and foremost  
(Torah, Gospels, Quran, Vedas, Confucian classics, etc.). Later in the  
European tradition with not just the Second Canon (Aristotle, etc.)  
but with the Protestant emphasis on individual reading and  
interpretation of the Bible (degenerating into fundamentalist  
literalism, alas), and descending from that (as David Olson notes) a  
close association between written text and hermeneutic reasoning,  
which more or less becomes scientific reasoning eventually. Most of  
the arguments that mastering written language grounds our higher  
reasoning skills go wrong by not seeing that it is really the  
juxtaposition of written vs. spoken language that leads to the  
insights about language and reasoning that they attribute to written  
mastery alone. (And inner speech probably plays some key role in all  
that, too, as LSV seems to be struggling to to find a way to piece all  
this together.)
So to come back to education and testing, the gold standard of  
assessment of how well someone understands something is not how  
beautiful an essay they can write about it, but how well they do in an  
extended conversational oral examination in some concrete setting with  
the relevant situation or stuff at hand.
JAY.

Jay Lemke
Professor
Educational Studies
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109
www.umich.edu/~jaylemke




On May 8, 2009, at 11:50 AM, David Kellogg wrote:

dhk:

Yes. One fact I forgot to cite is that the closer the kids get to the college entrance exam, the less impressive their performances get on those international student evaluations that PISA and Stevenson were so impressed by.
What's true of the kids is truer of their schools. We have the very  
best elementary school on earth (in my humble opinion) and every  
single elementary school teacher has liftime tenure, and is part of  
a career structure that professors in the USA would envy (low  
tuition in school, three months paid vacation a year, time off for  
further education, etc.) Until the last few years, our elementary  
schools were virtually test free.
Middle school teachers are treated much less well, and high school  
teachers downright shabbily, and of course the testing system, for  
all the excitement generated (airplanes grounded, traffic rerouted,  
police and even troops mobilized to get the nation's kids to the  
testing centres on time) at bottom enforces mediocrity, which is the  
baseline of our disgraceful university system.
It's for PRECISELY this reason that I don't believe it has anything  
to do with traditional Confucian testing. The Confucian tests were  
based on essay writing, and required analysis and synthesis of  
ancient texts and their creative interpretation and presentation.  
The current exams are multiple choice, "skills-based" and  
psychometric tests that Binet and Simon would easily recognize and  
of which Thorndike would heartily approve. Items are statistically  
independent (so much so that several attempts to factor-analyze the  
test have turned up absolutely nothing)
This kind of statistical independence is exactly what Vygotsky  
denies in Chapter Six, Section Four, (p. 267 of the Meccaci  
translation, pp. 207-208 in Minick):
"The research has shown that the different materials of school  
learning enter into reciprocal interactions during the course of the  
development of the child. This development appears in a mode which  
is more unified than that which we might suppose on the basis of the  
experiments of Thorndike according to which development acquires an  
atomistic character. The experiments of Thorndike have shown that  
the development of any partial knowledge or capacity consists of the  
formation of an independent chain of associations, which cannot in  
any way aid the appearance of another associative chain. All  
development would be independent, isolated and autonomous and would  
be realized equally on the basis of associative links."
Instead, in the quotes I talked about last time, Vygotsky argues for  
"abstraction" that is brought about through the realization of both  
LINKS and DIVERGENCES between mathematical thinking (- x - = +) and  
written speech ("It's NOT worth nothing"). I think Vygotsky uses the  
word “abstract” in two linked but nevertheless distinguishable  
senses, one having to do with capacity and the other having to do  
with actual performance.
On the one hand, “abstract” refers to DECONTEXUALIZEABLE knowledge,  
e.g. written language as opposed to spoken language. This is  
abstract because it is IDEAL; when we write, we take away the  
SENSUOUS, material form of words, we take away the SENSES we create  
because we are talking to a real, immediate person, and we take away  
the SENSIBLE purposes of language use because there is no question  
to which we are replying, no command which we obey, no request we  
must respond to, etc.
On the other, “abstract” refers to RECONTEXTUALIZEABLE knowledge,  
e.g. actual writing as opposed to actual speech. This is abstract  
because it is VOLITIONAL, it does not depend on response to an  
immediate environment. But it DOES depend on choice, selection, and  
free will constrained by the writer’s purposes. When we actually  
write we choose particular sequences of letters to form words, and  
it is possible to think of idiosyncratic spellings like “doe a dear”  
which give us access to our volitional memory and focus our  
volitional attention.
When we actually write we select sequences of words to form  
sentences; at the level of grammar innovation becomes not simply an  
option but a virtual necessity, because unlike spelling there is no  
ready reserve of preset sentences which will tell us exactly what to  
say in every situation. Finally, when we actually write we are free  
to create our own EXCHANGES and not simply our own sentences,  
creating the need for language use as well as fulfilling it; If at  
the level of lexicogrammar, written language tends “znachenie”, at  
the level of the text, it tends towads “smysl”.
The distinction seems important to me, because Bakhtin (and even  
Volosinov) does not really recognize that the latter form of  
abstract thinking, which allows the individual to realize free  
choice, rests on the former, which makes thinking available in a new  
context precisely by tearing it from an old one. It seems to me,  
though, that this kind of abstraction is actually what we see in the  
old kind of Confucian testing.
David Kellogg
Seoul National University of Education



_______________________________________________
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca


_______________________________________________
xmca mailing list
xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
http://dss.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/xmca