Re: [xmca] Humans and nature

When you get around to it, by all means bring together all the pieces of the
puzzle you want, Michalis. You might try googling lchc.edu for
Vygotsky/Leontiev discussions. \
Plenty of them!
mike

On 3/21/08, Michalis Kontopodis <michalis.kontopodis@staff.hu-berlin.de>
wrote:
>
> Dear Mike, I think that it is a pitty that these works do not refer to
> Vygotsky's relevant pieces of work and his concepts of language and
> mediation--I do not want however to open at this moment the discussion on
> the differences between Leontiew's and Vygotsky's approaches.
> I will study the mentioned articles and come back with new questions,
> thanks a lot,
>
> Michalis Kontopodis
>
> research associate
> humboldt university berlin
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> fax.: +49 (0) 30 2093 3739
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>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
>
> Hi--
>
> Some of the earlier discussions in MCA are:
>
> Symposium on "Cognition in the Wild" that includes latour: 1996, vol 3(1)
>
> Miettinin, R. (1999), vol 4(2) on AT and ANT
> Latour, 1996, vol 3(4)
>
> mike
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Michalis Kontopodis <
> michalis.kontopodis@staff.hu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> Thank you David,
>
>
> is this the publication you refered to: Van Lier, Eva 2004:
>
> Straattaal. Neerlandica Extra Muros. February 2004. ?
>
>
> I would be interested in doing some historical investigation on the
>
> origins and uses of the concept of mediation in 19th and early 20th
>
> century, which would probably be the link between all these works. At
>
> the moment I am in vacation (for the next two weeks) and do not have
>
> access to any library, so I will later come back to this.
>
>
> with thankful regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michalis Kontopodis
>
>
> research associate
>
> humboldt university berlin
>
> tel.: +49 (0) 30 2093 3716
>
> fax.: +49 (0) 30 2093 3739
>
> http://www.csal.de
>
> http://www.iscar.org/de/culthistanthpsy/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:24 AM, David Kellogg wrote:
>
>
> Dear Michalis,
>
>
> I think there isn't any direct evidence for a Peircean influence.
>
> But I also think it's there.
>
>
> One POSSIBLE conduit is Volosinov. van Lier (2004) has pointed out
>
> that Volosinov's analysis of "Well!" in "Discourse in Art and
>
> Discourse in Life" (the appendix to his book on Freudianism) is
>
> reducible with almost no remainder to a Peircean one.
>
>
> Andy would say this is because of their common Hegelian origin.
>
> Peirce and Volosinov are cousins in the same generation like apes
>
> and humans; the latter is not descended from the former. That's
>
> probably so. But still, as Marx would say, "the anatomy of man is
>
> the key to the anatomy of the ape".
>
>
> David Kellogg
>
> Seoul National University of Education
>
>
>
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