Re: [xmca] Watson redux

Sometimes its nice to indulge in a little Hopkins, or Kidman..

Both are brilliant in the film. Sinise is as well.

My favorite though is still Snow Falling on Cedars by David
Guterson... 'Do not judge a man for who he is, but for what he has done'

Mark

On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:56 AM, David Preiss wrote:

> I loved that book, did not know there was a movie about it...
>
> On Dec 10, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
>
>> The book is by Philip Roth, for those inclined to encounter the
>> issue in
>> that medium
>> mike
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2007 3:20 PM, Mark deBoer <mark@ias-group.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is an interesting movie along the lines of this thread. In
>>> this
>>> movie though, Anthony Hopkins knows his genetic makeup and spends 50
>>> years trying to hide it after losing the love of his life because
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> The Human Stain
>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308383/
>>>
>>> I wish there were more movies like these...
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:56 AM, David Preiss wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting how ironic science can be. (That reminds me of Nazi
>>>> scientists that had a jewish background. Uh! If these analysis can
>>>> be applied to them, how enjoyable!) On the other hand, I can't help
>>>> but think that these findings will be part of the anecdotic stories
>>>> thousands of college professors and textbook writers will include
>>>> within their narrative in the following years when talking about
>>>> genetics and human behavior. I am so glad they will be. I just hope
>>>> students learn the right thing beyond the irony behind the
>>>> situation
>>>> and that's the difference between racism and science.
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Mike Cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The following was forwarded to me by a colleague. Thought people
>>>>> might find
>>>>> it interesting.
>>>>> mike
>>>>> --------
>>>>>> From The Sunday TimesDecember 9, 2007
>>>>>
>>>>> DNA pioneer James Watson is blacker than he thought
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Leake, Science Editor
>>>>>
>>>>> JAMES WATSON, the DNA pioneer who claimed Africans are less
>>>>> intelligent than whites, has been found to have 16 times more
>>>>> genes
>>>>> of
>>>>> black origin than the average white European.
>>>>>
>>>>> An analysis of his genome shows that 16% of his genes are likely
>>>>> to
>>>>> have come from a black ancestor of African descent. By contrast,
>>>>> most
>>>>> people of European descent would have no more than 1%.
>>>>>
>>>>> The study was made possible when he allowed his genome - the map
>>>>> of
>>>>> all his genes - to be published on the internet in the interests
>>>>> of
>>>>> science.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This level is what you would expect in someone who had a great-
>>>>> grandparent who was African," said Kari Stefansson of deCODE
>>>>> Genetics,
>>>>> whose company carried out the analysis. "It was very surprising to
>>>>> get
>>>>> this result for Jim."
>>>>>
>>>>> Watson won the Nobel prize, with Francis Crick and Maurice
>>>>> Wilkins,
>>>>> after working out the structure of DNA in 1953. However, he
>>>>> provoked
>>>>> an outcry earlier this year when he suggested black people were
>>>>> genetically less intelligent than whites.
>>>>>
>>>>> This weekend his critics savoured the wry twist of fate. Sir John
>>>>> Sulston, the Nobel laureate who helped lead the consortium that
>>>>> decoded the human genome, said the discovery was ironic in view of
>>>>> Watson's opinions on race. "I never did agree with Watson's
>>>>> remarks,"
>>>>> he said. "We do not understand enough about intelligence to
>>>>> generalise
>>>>> about race."
>>>>>
>>>>> The backlash against Watson forced him to step down as
>>>>> chancellor of
>>>>> Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, New York state, after 39 years at
>>>>> the
>>>>> helm. He had said he was "inherently gloomy about the prospects
>>>>> for
>>>>> Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact
>>>>> that
>>>>> their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing
>>>>> says
>>>>> not really".
>>>>>
>>>>> The analysis by deCODE Genetics, an Icelandic company, also
>>>>> shows a
>>>>> further 9% of Watson's genes are likely to have come from an
>>>>> ancestor
>>>>> of Asian descent. Watson was not available for comment.
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