Re: [xmca] cognition bounded?

All this caused to me to leaf once again through
a lovely book/lecture by Martin Heidegger "What
is Called Thinking? Part II" On the last page he
writes

"What is called thinking?" At the end we return
to the question we asked at first when we found
out what our word "thinking" originally means.
Thanc means memory, thinking that recalls, thanks.

Ed Wall

>With whom are we thinking?
>Ana
>
>Mike Cole wrote:
>>With what are we thinking, Don?
>>mike
>>
>>On Dec 5, 2007 4:43 PM, Cunningham, Donald James <cunningh@indiana.edu>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eugene, should your signature question be "What do we think?" instead of
>>>"What do you think?"? Or "What are we thinking with? [forgive the grammar!]?
>>>
>>>Don Cunningham
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>>>Behalf Of Eugene Matusov
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:46 AM
>>>To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>Cc: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>>Subject: RE: [xmca] cognition bounded?
>>>
>>>Dear Mike and everybody-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me add my 3 cents (dollar is going down ;-) for this discussion. I
>>>think
>>>it is better to use the verb "to mind" or "minding" than the noun "the
>>>mind"
>>>since we often refer to a process rather than to a thing. In general, I
>>>agree with Mike, of course. But let tell you an anecdote to illustrate the
>>>"distributed" (or discursive?) nature of the minding process.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>A few days ago, when I was leaving my work, I could not find my car in the
>>>university 4-store building parking garage. As my memory has been getting
>>>more and more mature ;-) every day, I knew that it would happen one day
>>>and
>>>that day came. While I was frustrating in my search running from one
>>>store
>>>of the parking garage to another, I realized that on the top of forgetting
>>>where I had parked my car, I forget to pick up a video camera from my lab
>>>for next day videotaped observation of Lego-Logo Robotics activities at
>>>the
>>>Latin-American Community Center. With even more frustration, I went back
>>>to
>>>my lab to pick up the camera. At the lab, I realized that I forgot to send
>>>a
>>>web announcement to my undergrad students about reading for upcoming class
>>>discussion. I sent the announcement and made some emails, and did some
>>>other
>>>work while I was in lab. When I finished, I realized that it took about 2
>>>hours. I came back to the parking garage (with the video camera this time)
>>>to resume the search of my car, the garage was almost empty, and I found
>>>my
>>>car very easily. I was thinking about my "strategy" of "waiting" until the
>>>garage became empty, "That was smart!" Now I am thinking, where was my
>>>mind?
>>>Did I have mind at all? Was it minding? Was it MY minding? Did I lose mind
>>>and then found? Does mind, like sh..., sometimes simply happen?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Or is "my mind" a historical and cultural form of discourse for me to
>>>notice/recognize certain things and use them in future (like in future
>>>when
>>>I lose my car in the UD parking garage I might stop frustrating and stop
>>>useless searching efforts and just go back to my office to work more
>>>waiting
>>>until cars will be gone from the garage)? Is "the mind" reification of
>>>this
>>>discourse?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---------------------
>>>
>>>Eugene Matusov, Ph.D.
>>>
>>>Professor of Education
>>>
>>>School of Education
>>>
>>>University of Delaware
>>>
>>>Newark, DE 19716, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>email: ematusov@udel.edu
>>>
>>>fax: 1-(302)-831-4110
>>>
>>>website: http://ematusov.soe.udel.edu
>>>
>>>publications: http://ematusov.soe.udel.edu/vita/publications.htm
>>>
>>>---------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:45 PM
>>>To: Eugene Matusov
>>>Subject: Fwd: [xmca] cognition bounded?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>From: Mike Cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
>>>Date: Dec 4, 2007 8:44 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [xmca] cognition bounded?
>>>To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>>>Cc: Kevin Rocap <Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu <mailto:Kevin.Rocap@liu.edu> >
>>>
>>>
>>>This appears to be the responibility of Deleware and Louisiana. Eugene and
>>>David?
>>>
>>>My view? OF COURSE the mind is in the head.... but not only. If it were
>>>only
>>>in the head it would stay
>>>there and not kill people. Too damned good at killing people as it is!
>>>mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Dec 4, 2007 8:16 PM, Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià <jfespino@uc.cl
>>><mailto:jfespino@uc.cl> > wrote:
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>
>>>Kevin Rocap escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Then who's minding the store? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Juan Felipe Espinosa Cristià wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Dear All:
>>>>>
>>>>>An online paper from the authors is at:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.udel.edu/Philosophy/papers/adams2007.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>They said that "the mind is still in the head".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Juan Felipe Espinosa C.
>>>>>jfespino@uc.cl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 12/4/07 11:20 AM, "Peter Smagorinsky" < smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Martin--always useful to see a contrary perspective. The
>>>>>>>
>>>descriptor
>>>
>>>>>>>says that the book:
>>>>>>>"Articulates and defends the "mark of the cognitive", a common sense
>>>>>>>theory
>>>>>>>used to distinguish between cognitive and non-cognitive processes"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I always wonder about "common sense" arguments, and the author's
>>>>>>>
>>>belief
>>>
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>they are beyond culture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Peter Smagorinsky
>>>>>>>The University of Georgia
>>>>>>>125 Aderhold Hall
>>>>>>>Athens, GA 30602
>>>>>>>smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>>>>>>>http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:
>>>>>>>
>>><mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu> xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>>>
>>>>>>>Behalf Of Martin Packer
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:56 AM
>>>>>>>To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>>>>>>>Subject: [xmca] cognition bounded?
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